# A possible explination for certain Guests

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2004, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264 "2004-03-30T06:44:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/1 "2004-03-30T06:44:13Z")

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Recently I came across an interesting bulletin board when I googled someone’s text. The board, which was run by white nationalist and sympathizers, listed the Straight Dope as a good place for activism. I don’t want to link the cite because I’m not sure if it would break a rule, and I don’t want people starting anything with other boards. Its been done in the past and it wastes the time of the moderators.

Under a list of 8 websites including the Straight Dope

“Please, don’t post any retarded Nazi/Skinhead/KKK stuff, just good intelligent Paleo-Conservative and Christian Nationalist messages. Stick to literature by Kevin MacDonald, Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, \*\*J. Philippe Rushton, Richard Lynn, \*\* Sam Francis, Charles Murray, Glayde Whitney, Marian Van Court, Matt Nuenke, the American Renaissance authors, Joseph Sobran, [Vdare.com](http://Vdare.com) authors, The Occidental Quarterly authors, Justin Raimondo, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Institute for Historical Review, Michael Hoffman II, and similar authors.”

Very creepy.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/2 "2004-03-30T06:46:00Z")

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You mean StormFront?

If so, we know…

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**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/3 "2004-03-30T06:51:09Z")

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No. This one seems to be more in line with Science Girls posts than the last sf invasion. Might not be related at all but a lot of her posts came from the site directly. I just thought it was weird.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/4 "2004-03-30T06:53:39Z")

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Interesting… I just went to StormFront (for the first time ever!) to see if it was, in fact, the site you were referrencing… their “Links” page seems to be down at the moment. So I went to the forums to poke around a bit, and the first thread I clicked on, without looking closely at the title or OP, was by Charles A. Lindbergh!

I had to laugh…

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/5 "2004-03-30T06:55:19Z")

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> [@TitoBenito](#):
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> No.

Ah! Okie-dokie… could you give me a link, then? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/6 "2004-03-30T06:56:41Z")

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> [@TitoBenito](#):
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> I don’t want to link the cite because I’m not sure if it would break a rule, and I don’t want people starting anything with other boards. Its been done in the past and it wastes the time of the moderators.

Nevermind… just re-read your OP…

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**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/7 "2004-03-30T07:09:54Z")

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If you want to see where its from google my quoted section. I looked at the site some more and they have a whole board dedicated to Cyber Activism or what I call poltical spam.

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**Author:** ![TitoBenito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@TitoBenito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TitoBenito)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/8 "2004-03-30T07:13:15Z")

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They even have a 3 step plan

"As many of you know, the web is full of message boards [MBs] or bulletin boards [BBs] – places where members of a political forum can post text messages with topics like, “Gun-Ban Law Will Pass,” and then, other posters respond to that post underneath that post, and so on…

We have just been kicked off of yet another MB/BB for something we posted. We have been kicked off of maybe 10 MBs in the last 2 years. Big deal? Well, the pattern of us getting kicked off of MBs is very similar:

1. First, we post something very-true-but-politically-incorrect, e.g. Blacks having more diabetes than Whites despite diet factors.

2. Second, a poster at the MB yells and screams about that post, but strangely that poster cannot offer any concrete reason why our post is inaccurate. That complaining poster is almost always a self-identified Jew [90% of the time].

3. After 10 or 12 posts, we are banned from the MB. Whenever we ask the board administration which posts of ours were untrue/wrong/inaccurate, they cannot or will not tell us"

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**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/9 "2004-03-30T07:16:12Z")

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Noam Chomsky’s being used by skinheads now??

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/10 "2004-03-30T07:25:52Z")

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They are quite the pieces of work aren’t they? :rolleyes: They’ll give themselves away eventually, they’re after more recruits for their cause, so they will have to start trying to hook likely catches, and try to reel them in eventually.

\*It’s just as easy as the OP says to find the site. \*

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/11 "2004-03-30T08:12:00Z")

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Fuck. What a bunch of pathetic sods. What do they hope to accomplish? Free ride to the nut house?

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**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/12 "2004-03-30T08:43:32Z")

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> [@lambchops](#):
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> Noam Chomsky’s being used by skinheads now??

My bet is that they’d cherry pick his anti-zionist material and, at the same time, hold him up as a an example of a dangerous and treacherous Jew for his opposition to American foreign policy. Stupid and immoral people can easily manage such intellectual acrobatics. I’d love to hear Chomsky’s view if this is correct.

TitoBenito, why did you bold Rushton and Lynn’s names in your OP?

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/13 "2004-03-30T09:18:33Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> \*It’s just as easy as the OP says to find the site. \*

Right you are… I just found it…

Ugh.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/14 "2004-03-30T10:39:18Z")

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I’ve decided that this is one advantage of this board going to pay-to-post. I hope we’ll get fewer of this sort of idiot. If they choose to rot their souls and minds with the ugliness they wallow in, that’s their privilege. Me, I’ve chosen a more pleasant worldview.

CJ

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/15 "2004-03-30T11:19:37Z")

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This certainly confirms my own research on the subject; on the SF board, there are a number of threads detailing how to act when visiting other boards, essentially advocating concealment of true motive and other wilful deception.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/16 "2004-03-30T13:18:30Z")

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> [@Siege](#):
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> I’ve decided that this is one advantage of this board going to pay-to-post. I hope we’ll get fewer of this sort of idiot.

Most of them don’t last 30 days as it is…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/17 "2004-03-30T13:34:08Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> This certainly confirms my own research on the subject; on the SF board, there are a number of threads detailing how to act when visiting other boards, essentially advocating concealment of true motive and other wilful deception.

“All warfare is deception” — Sun Tzu

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/18 "2004-03-30T13:39:44Z")

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Heck, I don’t even mind if they’re pushing a straight paleo-conservative viewpoint. There’s room for all God’s children on the Dope, right?

As long as they don’t come in guns blazing saying ‘kill the jews’ and ‘damn blacks’ and suchlike there’s room for us to debunk them…or maybe find spots of agreement.

If we’re about fighting ignorance isn’t it easier if the ignorant beat a path to our door?

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/19 "2004-03-30T13:41:24Z")

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> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> Most of them don’t last 30 days as it is…

Yeah, but people who really believe in something and want to convert others will find the $14.95 somewhere. The money will deter them somewhat, but not entirely, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-possible-explination-for-certain-guests/237264/20 "2004-03-30T14:42:15Z")

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Paleo-Conservative? 😕  
(don’t wanna go to the site to find out…)

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