# A poster's join date doesn't invalidate/validate their position **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2014, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605 "2014-03-13T12:48:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/81 "2014-03-14T20:05:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Typical Join Date 2008 mistake! Typical 2002 join date arrogance! oh wait. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/82 "2014-03-14T22:16:43Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Typical 2002 join date arrogance! > > oh wait. Typical **Sept** 2002 Join Date arrogance. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/83 "2014-03-14T22:24:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Typical 2002 join date arrogance! > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Typical **Sept** 2002 Join Date arrogance. You old fogeys keep it down and off to the retirement home with the lot of you. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/84 "2014-03-15T00:05:58Z")
Talk about fogeys… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/85 "2014-03-15T00:32:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Would you mind putting an extra coat of wax on before bringing the Bentley out front, newbie? Are you afraid the Irish are going to piss on it on their way home from the parade? > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > If someone shows up to a message board and starts posting lunacy immediately after joining, there is a 100% chance that person is a troll. I believe the number is considerably lower than 50%. You are ignoring the crazy and the just plain stupid. Lots of threads by them, and they aren’t trying to get anybody’s goat. Except maybe Obama’s. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/86 "2014-03-15T01:14:50Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > I will personally attest to Ranger Jeff being an active and valuable participant on the AOL Boards. That and a small monetary consideration should help bump him up in the consideration of the commitee. Maybe to early October, 2021. Thanks, Doc. Your check is in the mail. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Merton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Frank\_Merton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_Merton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/87 "2014-03-15T07:41:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Unpresented evidence _never_ speaks for itself. Something you might want to remember the next time you “have better things to do”. Interesting; Buck Godot provides you with the link and you don’t even bother to apologize. I don’t think any of us has any responsibility to jump at your beck and call just cause you want to find a way to insult us. If you want to call me a liar, do so and see what that gets you, but doing it the way you did just makes you worse. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/88 "2014-03-15T08:03:00Z")
You’re expecting an apology in the Pit? :dubious: You _are_ new here, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Merton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Frank\_Merton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_Merton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/89 "2014-03-15T10:24:12Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > You’re expecting an apology in the Pit? :dubious: > > You _are_ new here, aren’t you? I’m learning. A gentleman goes to church even in an atheist country because that’s what a gentleman does. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/90 "2014-03-15T10:31:35Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > You’re expecting an apology in the Pit? :dubious: And from **Czarcasm** , no less. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/91 "2014-03-15T10:36:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Ahh, you youngsters that joined after 1999. You still have so much to learn. Get offa my lawn, ya juvenile delinquent! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/92 "2014-03-15T10:44:23Z")
> [@Frank\_Merton](#): > > Interesting; Buck Godot provides you with the link and you don’t even bother to apologize. Apologize for what? Asking you for a link to back up your claim? Get used to it, chum. At this point in your SDMB career, you’re coming across as arrogant, antagonistic, and disinterested in adjusting to the board culture. It doesn’t matter to me; I don’t care if you flame out in a week or are still here in 2026. ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Merton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Frank\_Merton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_Merton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/93 "2014-03-15T11:40:48Z")
How I come across to you perhaps; I have a similar reaction to what you post although I am perhaps of a more civil generation. I’m not new to participating on boards and now participate in several, and I know they each have a personality, and I have found a couple of the participants on this board to be of questionable parentage. However, I tend to hang around awhile before abandoning a board if the whole personality and monitoring are unfair to give it a chance. One thing I won’t do is allow the local bullies to drive me away. There are some people who seem to thrive on trying to make people feel small, and one should not let them succeed. You should keep in mind though that there are fragile personalities about and you never quite know what the consequences of being rude and insulting might be. Of course you would never know it if you contributed to such a tragedy, and it is certainly the case that one can be judged by how one behaves when one is anonymously much more accurately than when one is not. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/94 "2014-03-15T12:39:01Z")
> [@Frank\_Merton](#): > > How I come across to you perhaps; I have a similar reaction to what you post although I am perhaps of a more civil generation. Hey, Frank, have you met **Starving Artist** yet? I’m sure the two of you are going to get along swimmingly. > [@](#): > > I have found a couple of the participants on this board to be of questionable parentage. There’s that wonderful old-timer civility for you. What a fuckwit. > [@](#): > > One thing I won’t do is allow the local bullies to drive me away. That’s no way to talk about the mods… > [@](#): > > you never quite know what the consequences of being rude and insulting might be. I’m reasonably sure you’re going to find out - I mean, it’s only been a week and you’ve already caught the moddish eye. But by all means, keep on the same track. ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Merton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Frank\_Merton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_Merton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/95 "2014-03-15T12:47:16Z")
I don’t know that its your job to tell the mods what to do. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/96 "2014-03-15T14:57:03Z")
> [@Frank\_Merton](#): > > You should keep in mind though that there are fragile personalities about and you never quite know what the consequences of being rude and insulting might be. Of course you would never know it if you contributed to such a tragedy, and it is certainly the case that one can be judged by how one behaves when one is anonymously much more accurately than when one is not. Then those fragile snowflakes have no business being in the Pit. That’s the one place where Dopers are allowed to cut loose and be rude and insulting to one’s content, albeit there are still some guidelines. If your fragile psyche is bruised from venturing into here, then fuck the consequences. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/97 "2014-03-15T15:20:12Z")
> [@Frank\_Merton](#): > > I don’t know that its your job to tell the mods what to do. You can show me where I did that, right? As opposed to using my incredible psychic powers to predict what they will likely do. We really should have a quota for “Cranky old men who shit all over the civility they decries others for lacking” ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Merton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Frank\_Merton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_Merton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/98 "2014-03-15T15:21:22Z")
What the management allows or doesn’t allow is their business. We also have personal responsibilities to keep in mind. What the reaction did to me is get my ire up. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/99 "2014-03-15T15:36:21Z")
> [@Frank\_Merton](#): > > We also have personal responsibilities to keep in mind. Precisely. And mine are to remind the world you are an ignorant, rude fuckwit. Good day, sir. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605/100 "2014-03-15T17:32:38Z")
As a newcomer, I find it ironic that a message board touting itself as full of smart people and with a stated purpose of fighting ignorance has so many people always mentioning join date, I have always thought that that type of thinking paves the way for ignorance. Anyhow, I still like to use this board as a repository for my unfiltered thoughts and emotions, if I wanted to sit around and lurk for a long time to figure out what was acceptable and the “culture” it wouldn’t even be worth it. I get enough of that in daily life, and if I wanted more of it I would seek a corporate job where spending the time to figure out the norms of a new culture can have significant financial rewards as opposed to a chat room where the only reward would be that a few random people who I most likely will never meet in person feel that I act appropriately enough within their standards to be considered a worthy person with worthy reasoning of my correct thoughts. Also, I’m finding I like it when people write things that are wrong or not that well thought out or unpopular, it makes the board interesting to me. Finally, I did read all the rules posted by the moderators and I follow them, and there are an appropriate amount of rules in my opinion - and I don’t think that adding some sort of hierarchy of importance of posters makes the board more interesting or worthwhile. But then again, I’m new here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-posters-join-date-doesnt-invalidate-validate-their-position/683605.md?page=6)