# A pox on both their houses. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259 "2016-10-31T15:15:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/21 "2016-10-31T19:13:21Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > They are not at all “a-like”. Never made that claim. Clearly Trump is far worse. Doesn’t mean that HRC’s presidency will be inspirational or help bridge the socio-political divide. I doubt that Jesus Christ Himself couldn’t help bridge the current socio-political divide. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/22 "2016-10-31T19:24:59Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I doubt that Jesus Christ Himself couldn’t help bridge the current socio-political divide. I’m no bible scholar, but isn’t JC widely viewed as being a shit disturber in his time? 😉 No, JC seems like the wrong guy for the job. And while it’s an exercise in futility to wish for a candidate that didn’t run, I think Joe Biden would have been our best bet. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/23 "2016-10-31T19:32:13Z")
“Both sides are just the same.” Blah, blah, blah. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/24 "2016-10-31T19:33:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > “Both sides are just the same.” Blah, blah, blah. Nobody is saying that. But, hey, whatever gets you through. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/25 "2016-10-31T19:41:48Z")
> [@FatBaldGuy](#): > > IMHO, Hillary Clinton is the worst possible candidate for President. > With the exception of Donald Trump. You have a short memory. The Republicans paraded out a whole tasting board of candidates who would have been worse than Hillary. Hillary is, at worst, a business-as-usual candidate. She may even get shit done. But she doesn’t fill one with the kind of ass-puckering terror that the idea of a Trump or Ted Cruz or Scott Walker presidency would. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/26 "2016-10-31T21:00:35Z")
> [@FatBaldGuy](#): > > IMHO, Hillary Clinton is the worst possible candidate for President. > With the exception of Donald Trump. This! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/27 "2016-10-31T22:20:24Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > … The Republicans paraded out a whole tasting board of candidates who would have been worse than Hillary. … Amen. No matter how insanely unqualified Donald Trump is, and no matter how dangerous a win for him would be, I can still find moments to smile when I say to myself: “Ted Cruz is out of this.” ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/28 "2016-10-31T22:42:50Z")
Mike Pence is as scary as Ted Cruz though! And as much as I’m looking forward to the end of election season, that won’t fix that friend who thinks that anyone who votes for Hillary is part of a cult, or that cousin who said that my mother’s support of Hillary must be due to having been dropped on her head as a child… ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/29 "2016-10-31T22:45:28Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Amen. No matter how insanely unqualified Donald Trump is, and no matter how dangerous a win for him would be, I can still find moments to smile when I say to myself: “Ted Cruz is out of this.” This too. What a repulsive tool. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/30 "2016-10-31T23:22:28Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Mike Pence is as scary as Ted Cruz though! > > … I can’t argue with that. It’s funny in a not funny kind of way. Trump spent the primary season destroying Ted Cruz (and the rest) and then when it was choose a VP time, he’s all: Hey- who’s the religious bigotry guy? We need one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/31 "2016-10-31T23:34:49Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Trump losing = good. I Swear I first read that as “Trump Tossing = Good” (If we toss him on ice & beat the fuck out of him with brooms once he’s down, could that rival Curling…?) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/32 "2016-11-01T02:06:10Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > This is not a real thing. If you try to transform this metaphor into actual things a President does, you’ll see that it goes away in a puff of smoke. How about if I lock you in a room with the ghost of LBJ? Your balls will be crushed even if you’re ON HIS SIDE. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/33 "2016-11-01T02:10:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > A pox on both their houses. Well, since Trump is against the proper use of vaccines, [**guess who would come ahead if confronted with that**](https://www.romper.com/p/hillary-clinton-is-the-only-candidate-supporting-mandatory-vaccines-thats-crucial-15385)? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/34 "2016-11-01T09:38:10Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Trump dropping dead of a brain aneurysm immediately after losing the election = good. > > I just don’t see how 4 years of Republican special prosecutors going after Hillary = good. You want both sides to drop dead because the GOP nominated a Dumpster Fire for president, and will also spend the next 4 years on bullshit investigations if DF loses. Seems to me that one house needs a pox and the other house needs a bit of tidying up. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/35 "2016-11-01T11:44:26Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Doesn’t mean that HRC’s presidency will be inspirational or help bridge the socio-political divide. The problem is that the nearest you could come to starting to bridge that divide would be a white male, because they are the most powerful demographic and even people who aren’t white males are used to (resigned to?) the idea of white males being in power. A black or a woman is instantly divisive. I’m not saying that’s the way it should be or that as a consequence they shouldn’t be given power. I’m just saying that it’s an unfortunate thing that right from the get go there is a certain (I suspect quite large) demographic who are going to reflexively find any powerful woman to be a dislikeable bitch, and any powerful non-ethnic majority guy as alien and untrustworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/36 "2016-11-01T14:02:12Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I’m hoping that Hillz will prove to be more of a dab hand at Republican ball-crushing than Obama was. I’m fully expecting this, she has insider support (a thing you don’t want to admit you have pre-election day and something you need post-election day) and every reason on the planet to make her toughness plain to the world. Obama had an incentive to not appear as an ‘angry black man’ to a still pretty racist nation, Hillary cannot afford to look like a ‘meek housewife’ to a still misogynistic one. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/37 "2016-11-01T14:26:28Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > The president is not magic. Sometimes I think Trump thinks it is. He thinks he’s going to win, and get anointed with special powers (“powers” as in “Harry Potter,” not “constitutionally provided”) that make him some kind of demi-god. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, since Trump is against the proper use of vaccines, [**guess who would come ahead if confronted with that**](https://www.romper.com/p/hillary-clinton-is-the-only-candidate-supporting-mandatory-vaccines-thats-crucial-15385)? > > 🙂 Yeah, so his kids will die, but what matters was whether his parents had him fully vaccinated. --Nevermind. Trump and Clinton are both old enough to have contracted and therefore acquired immunity to measles, mumps, pertussis, etc. Albeit, since Clinton has a child born post-1970 and grandchildren born recently, she probably got a rubella vaccine and an adult DTP booster. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/38 "2016-11-01T14:32:02Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I’m fully expecting this, she has insider support (a thing you don’t want to admit you have pre-election day and something you need post-election day) and every reason on the planet to make her toughness plain to the world. Obama had an incentive to not appear as an ‘angry black man’ to a still pretty racist nation, Hillary cannot afford to look like a ‘meek housewife’ to a still misogynistic one. Nobody worries about Hillary looking like a meek housewife. And assertive women are generally labeled as bitches for the same sort of behavior that is praised as leadership in men. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259/39 "2016-11-01T14:44:39Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > The problem is that the nearest you could come to starting to bridge that divide would be a white male, because they are the most powerful demographic and even people who aren’t white males are used to (resigned to?) the idea of white males being in power. > > A black or a woman is instantly divisive. I’m not saying that’s the way it should be or that as a consequence they shouldn’t be given power. I’m just saying that it’s an unfortunate thing that right from the get go there is a certain (I suspect quite large) demographic who are going to reflexively find any powerful woman to be a dislikeable bitch, and any powerful non-ethnic majority guy as alien and untrustworthy. Trouble with this approach is that we’re more likely to run out of electable white males before we run out of racists and misogynists. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/770259.md?page=1)