# A Pox On You, Saxby Chambliss **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519 "2008-11-01T00:51:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/1 "2008-11-01T00:51:04Z")
[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/us/politics/30chambliss.html?\_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1225499473-jAqnyGIC94zxdf31cJ8pbw](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/us/politics/30chambliss.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1225499473-jAqnyGIC94zxdf31cJ8pbw) \*\*Heavy Black Turnout Threatens Georgia Senator \*\* Wherein he opines, to witless: > [@](#): > > …The development is not lost on Mr. Chambliss. “There has always been a rush to the polls by African-Americans early,” he said at the square in Covington, a quick stop on a bus tour as the campaign entered its final week. He predicted the crowds of early voters would motivate Republicans to turn out. “It has also got our side energized, they see what is happening,” he said… Are you so utterly and morbidly dense you don’t grasp the implications of your speech? Or so corrupt that you would employ the basest human biases if it will gain you votes? You just said, in essence, “Vote for me because I’m white”. I’ll give you the benefit of the slightest doubt, that maybe you didn’t consider what you were saying. But the longer you take before you throw yourself blubbering in shame before the public, the less likely that becomes. The alternative, of course, is that you’re a festering goat rectum, and a stain upon the office you infect. Rot. Soon. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/2 "2008-11-01T00:55:56Z")
He clearly sees it as us against them. Not promising for a politician. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/3 "2008-11-01T01:01:48Z")
I’m not really seeing what he said here’s that’s so objectionable. He didn’t say “Vote for me because I’m white.” That would be silly…Jim Martin’s white too. He said he’s not worried about the early voting showing his opponent leading, because blacks, who tend to be early voters, vote for Democrats, and that the wave of early voting will inspire his supporters to come out for him on election day. Now, I don’t know that he’s right when he’s saying this. There does seem to be increased African American turnout, and I think that might cost him the election, because, again, blacks tend to vote Democratic. There’s plenty of good reasons to dislike Saxby Chambliss, but I don’t think this is a good one. > [@gonzomax](#): > > He clearly sees it as us against them. Not promising for a politician. Election campaigns tend to be us against them. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/4 "2008-11-01T01:03:52Z")
This is of course the man who got in office by impugning the patriotism of a triple-amputee war veteran incumbent. Not at all surprising. There are sane and decent people in Georgia. Unfortunately, the past few years they’ve been in the minority. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/5 "2008-11-01T01:18:40Z")
Truth is no defense here,\*\* Cap’n.\*\* It may well be true that yo mamma so fat she uses a hula hoop to keep her stockings up, but there is no reason for me to mention it. But perhaps my wording is clumsy, perhaps he didn’t say “Vote for me because I’m white”, perhaps what he really meant was “Vote for me because you are white”. Yes, I can see how much better that is. Much the same way typhoid is better than ebola. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/6 "2008-11-01T01:26:05Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Are you so utterly and morbidly dense you don’t grasp the implications of your speech? Or so corrupt that you would employ the basest human biases if it will gain you votes? > > You just said, in essence, “Vote for me because I’m white”. That’s a bit unfair. He said “vote for me or the other guy will win”. He didn’t bring race into it; African-Americans are apparently voting against him in droves. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/7 "2008-11-01T01:47:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But perhaps my wording is clumsy, perhaps he didn’t say “Vote for me because I’m white”, perhaps what he really meant was “Vote for me because you are white”. Yes, I can see how much better that is. Much the same way typhoid is better than ebola. He didn’t say that either. All he said was basically “Black people historically make up the majority of early voters.” I don’t see that that’s particularly offensive. And there was a reason to mention it. He was trying to counteract the perception that the fact that his opponent is polling well among early voters means that he’s going to lose. So, obviously, the way to answer is is by saying that early voters tend to belong to a demographic that supports the opposing party. I mean, how is that different than the following comment made before the 2006 election, about the senatorial race in Virginia? Do you consider it offensive too? > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t get too excited if early returns have Allen tied or a point or two behind early, as the more rural districts will likely come in later and favor Allen more heavily, if he’s down by more then a point or two early it’s not a good sign. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/8 "2008-11-01T02:06:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Or so corrupt that you would employ the basest human biases if it will gain you votes? I think he made that clear enough six years ago. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/9 "2008-11-01T02:17:15Z")
FYI, from now on I’m going to call my penis Saxby Chambliss. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/10 "2008-11-01T02:18:23Z")
Saxby Chamblis has always struck me as the worst name in the senate. That collection of syllables sounds like a curse Hermione Grainger would yell at the top of her lungs. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/11 "2008-11-01T02:26:08Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > He didn’t say that either. All he said was basically “Black people historically make up the majority of early voters.” I don’t see that that’s particularly offensive. Just curious, is it offensive if they say it like they did here in Hillsborough County, Florida (not Saxby Chambliss territory, but the same meme): > [@](#): > > The threat: Here in Temple Terrace, FL our Republican HQ is one block away from our library, which is an early voting site. > > I see carloads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes for Obama. This is their chance to get a black president and they seem to care little that he is at minimum, socialist, and probably Marxist in his core beliefs. After all, he is black — no experience or accomplishments — but he is black. I also see young college students and their professors from USF parking their cars with the prominent ‘Obama’ bumper stickers. The students are enthusiastic to be voting in a historic election where there may be the first black president. ---
**Author:** ![VoluntaryPlan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9fc29f/32.png) [@VoluntaryPlan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VoluntaryPlan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/12 "2008-11-01T02:28:22Z")
Saxby Chambliss is a miserable boil on Georgia’s already dark past. I have never felt more ashamed to be a Georgian than when he succeeded at obtaining Max Cleland’s senate seat through the worst campaign tactics this side of the Republican party. Hell is too good for him. I’ll settle with him just losing his seat for right now. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/13 "2008-11-01T02:40:07Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > FYI, from now on I’m going to call my penis Saxby Chambliss. This sort of dickery is why people take offense with you. What has your penis ever done to deserve being insulted like that? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/14 "2008-11-01T02:47:38Z")
Well, Freud got it exactly backwards, its not “penis envy”, its penis shame, that’s why we’re always looking for some place to hide it. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/15 "2008-11-01T02:48:24Z")
Take a look again at what Chambliss said. First the African-Americans turn out. . . . then _our side_ turns out. Anyway, he’s a douche, from way back. Enjoyed voting against him. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/16 "2008-11-01T03:01:11Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > Take a look again at what Chambliss said. > > First the African-Americans turn out. . . . then _our side_ turns out. Right…and? “Our side” means the Republicans, because the African-Americans are on “their side”…they’re Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/17 "2008-11-01T03:05:53Z")
Who the fuck names their kid “Saxby” for crying out loud? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/18 "2008-11-01T09:25:18Z")
[QUOTE=Saxby Dickless] “There has always been a rush to the polls by African-Americans early,” he said at the square in Covington, a quick stop on a bus tour as the campaign entered its final week. He predicted the crowds of early voters would motivate Republicans to turn out. “It has also got our side energized, they see what is happening,” he said… [/QUOTE] Wow, I was going to post about this too, but from [another source](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15076.html) (Politico). That source added an extra line that put the above into perspective. > [@](#): > > The Republican is outwardly confident, but there’s urgency in his voice as he tours North Georgia, trying to boost turnout in his predominately white base: **“The other folks are voting,” he bluntly tells supporters.** I don’t think he’s just talking about Democrats there. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/19 "2008-11-01T14:13:48Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Right…and? “Our side” means the Republicans, because the African-Americans are on “their side”…they’re Democrats. But he said their side is black, not Democrat. He is presuming that all blacks vote Democrat, and all whites vote Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519/20 "2008-11-01T14:28:08Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > But he said their side is black, not Democrat. He is presuming that all blacks vote Democrat, and all whites vote Republican. But almost all blacks in Georgia do vote Democrat, and almost all whites in Georgia do vote Republican. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pox-on-you-saxby-chambliss/470519.md?page=2)