# A Pre-Emptive Goodbye

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 2, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417 "2010-02-02T18:27:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/21 "2010-02-02T18:52:31Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Dude, at the moment, you’re jumping up and down, waving your arms, and screaming “Ban me” at the top of your lungs. If you continue, I expect someone will grant your wish relatively quickly. Or, you could go grab a smoke, take a walk, or otherwise do anything besides continuing to beg for banning, and you prolly won’t get banned. Your call.

Not really. I’m pretty calm here. I love how you guys get all hyperbolic about this shit.

No really. The stakes are REALLY REALLY REALLY low. Meaning, as I recognize that my ‘give a shit threshold’ is low, that it’s inevitable.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/22 "2010-02-02T18:56:55Z")

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“So please, someone come and say something controversial” looks suspiciously like an invitation to troll. You’ve been here long enough to know this is a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/23 "2010-02-02T18:59:17Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> “So please, someone come and say something controversial” looks suspiciously like an invitation to troll. You’ve been here long enough to know this is a bad idea.

Nah. Things are only debatable if they are controversial. I used the word in a very uncontroversial manner. By definition every topic worthy of GD is controversial.

My mistake was not posting it in IMHO or MSPSIMS and asking for it to be moved after two posts.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/24 "2010-02-02T19:04:05Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Nah. Things are only debatable if they are controversial. I used the word in a very uncontroversial manner. By definition every topic worthy of GD is controversial.
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> My mistake was not posting it in IMHO or MSPSIMS and asking for it to be moved after two posts.

Your “mistake” was not deliberately posting a thread in the wrong forum?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/25 "2010-02-02T19:09:21Z")

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Mswas, get over yourself and stop acting like a martyr. Getting yourself banned from a message board is not going to impress anyone. There’s no vast conspiracy against you because nobody cares.

If you want to continue posting here, start following the rules of the people who run the board. If you don’t want to post here, then just stop posting. Come back in a few weeks and see if anyone noticed your absense.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/26 "2010-02-02T19:13:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Your “mistake” was not deliberately posting a thread in the wrong forum?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/27 "2010-02-02T19:14:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Mswas, get over yourself and stop acting like a martyr. Getting yourself banned from a message board is not going to impress anyone. There’s no vast conspiracy against you because nobody cares.

I’m not getting myself banned.

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> If you want to continue posting here, start following the rules of the people who run the board. If you don’t want to post here, then just stop posting. Come back in a few weeks and see if anyone noticed your absense.

LOL. I think you missed the point of this thread.

I know this concept is a very difficult one for people to grasp.

I want to continue posting for as long as it is tenable to do so. If it becomes untenable I will shrug and probably be more productive. 😉

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/28 "2010-02-02T19:15:14Z")

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mswas meet [Silverstreak Wonder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=550344).

Sometimes you are judged by the company you keep.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/29 "2010-02-02T19:16:57Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I might make it over to Mellophant if that occurs, I might not.

Mellophant. . . batton down the hatches. Incoming! 😛

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/30 "2010-02-02T19:18:05Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Mellophant. . . batton down the hatches. Incoming! 😛

Mellophant called and said if they have to take him, they get to bat first, and his outs don’t count.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/31 "2010-02-02T19:18:16Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> mswas meet [Silverstreak Wonder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=550344).
> 
> Sometimes you are judged by the company you keep.

This doesn’t even make any sense. 😉

**Heffalump and Roo** I was one of the first people to sign onto Domebo. 😉

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/32 "2010-02-02T19:20:23Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> This doesn’t even make any sense. 😉

The analogy makes perfect sense. Mods be repressin your expressin until it get depressin, but it still ain’t impressin. Same thing **SW** argued. It didn’t work for him, either.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/33 "2010-02-02T19:23:28Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I want to continue posting for as long as it is tenable to do so.

Then don’t insult people. As capricious rules go, it’s a pretty simple one.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/34 "2010-02-02T19:29:38Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> The analogy makes perfect sense. Mods be repressin your expressin until it get depressin, but it still ain’t impressin. Same thing **SW** argued. It didn’t work for him, either.

Nope, I am just saying Goodbye and pointing out the difference of opinion between myself and the mods. Most of my warnings were IMO unwarranted. And what I am saying is that I will most likely in a fit of pique get that last warning.

That is all.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> Then don’t insult people. As capricious rules go, it’s a pretty simple one.

Or start threads that offend liberal sensibilities of course.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/35 "2010-02-02T19:31:50Z")

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So why is the only person who posted not one, but two insults in this thread, where no insults should ever be posted (ATMB) not receiving an official warning? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/36 "2010-02-02T19:33:17Z")

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Our pique or yours? 😛 This is really stupid, and it’s more emptive than pre-emptive.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/37 "2010-02-02T19:36:52Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> So why is the only person who posted not one, but two insults in this thread, where no insults should ever be posted (ATMB) not receiving an official warning? :dubious:

You mean this one?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12067873&postcount=18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12067873&postcount=18)

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/38 "2010-02-02T19:38:16Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Our pique or yours? 😛 This is really stupid, and it’s more emptive than pre-emptive.

Oh? I am already banned? If the answer is no at the time of the OP then it is pre-emptive by definition. 😉

You and I both know that if mods join in the debate and call moderator privilege, I’m not going to take that bullshit. So I’ll be banned for it. 😉

That is **Tomndebb** ’s favorite thing to do. To advance the debate during a moderator warning, and then consider any further debate about the points he advances as questioning the ruling of a mod.

\*\*Twickster \*\*simply locks threads that she doesn’t approve of the content of personally.

You of course were acting within the letter of the law, but you also know that you have enforcement discretion, and you knew that my thread today wasn’t going to get out of hand.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/39 "2010-02-02T19:39:56Z")

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I don’t see anything wrong with forcing someone to state their views first. I just wish this was enforced more. **mswas** certainly isn’t the first name that pops in my mind when I think of posters who do driveby quoting. But that’s not to say the warning and lock was not justified: it was, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/40 "2010-02-02T19:43:30Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> You of course were acting within the letter of the law, but you also know that you have enforcement discretion, and you knew that my thread today wasn’t going to get out of hand.

Where did I say the thread was going to get out of hand? I asked you to post an actual proposition for debate beacuse that’s how Great Debates works. (I could have just locked the thread _without_ inviting you to elaborate, but I thought that was unnecessary and heavy-handed.) You refused. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

The rest of your post is sort of the **Mswas** Greatest Hits. Since you’re still not banned, maybe you’d like to put them on two cassettes or one compact disc and sell them by infomercial?

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