# A Pre-Emptive Goodbye **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 2, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417 "2010-02-02T18:27:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/81 "2010-02-02T22:17:06Z")
FTR, most of my GD threads boil down to “debate this for me” as I don’t have a well fixed opinion on the topics I propose. I just put a little more heart to it and make a point of showing what is it that I know and what is it that is bugging me. You don’t have to be a staunch pro- or anti- something to be in GD. ---
**Author:** ![ajb867](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@ajb867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajb867)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/82 "2010-02-02T22:17:55Z")
So perhaps he is Bi-polar? His permanent removal from the board I think will be overall a downer. I mean hell there are days were I actually miss Carol Stream, usually that’s after reading one of Ivn’s post in the pit. He seemed to just be a fly on the wall prior to Carol’s banning. I think the distinct personalities bring flavor to the SDMB. I’ll concede rules are rules and you Moderators have to do your job. I just don’t want to see the pre-emptive goodbye thread immediately turn in to the out the door thread which is the way it seemed to be headed. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/83 "2010-02-02T22:24:53Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > You used both he and she when referring to **mswas** , so now I’m confused. Is **mswas** male or female? :smack: I screw that up quite often. I’m pretty sure it’s He, but the name always sounds feminine to me. My apologies for the confusion. And for this apology if it is actually She. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/84 "2010-02-02T22:26:10Z")
> [@ajb867](#): > > I just don’t want to see the pre-emptive goodbye thread immediately turn in to the out the door thread which is the way it seemed to be headed. If so, the only one to blame for that is the OP. He starts a thread that says, basically, _I’ve been told I’ll be banned with my next warning, and for some reason I am either incapable or unwilling to avoid doing something that will earn another warning, so, um, bye._ And then he goes on to bitch about the unfairness of it all ad nauseum. Various methods of avoiding bannination have been suggested to him. Ball’s in his court. I don’t particularly want to see him (Thanks **magellan** ) banned, but if he’s bound and determined to suicide by mod, that’s his choice. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/85 "2010-02-02T22:27:05Z")
> [@ajb867](#): > > So perhaps he is Bi-polar? His permanent removal from the board I think will be overall a downer. I mean hell there are days were I actually miss Carol Stream, usually that’s after reading one of Ivn’s post in the pit. He seemed to just be a fly on the wall prior to Carol’s banning. I think the distinct personalities bring flavor to the SDMB. I’ll concede rules are rules and you Moderators have to do your job. I just don’t want to see the pre-emptive goodbye thread immediately turn in to the out the door thread which is the way it seemed to be headed. If a friend of yours threatened to jump off a building, would you try to talk him down, or would you berate the police and fire department for not setting up airbags and nets around the entire building? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/86 "2010-02-02T22:29:32Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > Are you thinking that this is the only time mswas ever broke the rules of the board? I don’t think it is. But some of the stuff is very minor. I’ve received Warnings that I deserved that were delivered after what was clearly an infraction. I’ve also received some that fall into the you-GOTTA-be-kidding-me category. I don’t know the seriousness of his other infractions. I will add this, that if **mswas** is given a tenth of the “extra consideration” **Der Trihs**" is, he’ll be around for forever. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/87 "2010-02-02T22:34:32Z")
I can’t believe I am actually chiming in, (playing right into mswas’ bullshit game) but mswas is an attention-whoring drama queen, and won’t be happy until he can actually get himself banned, and then come back here in a couple of months with a sock account and start up an olde-fashoned shitstir again, as is his wont. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/88 "2010-02-02T22:35:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I will add this, that if **mswas** is given a tenth of the “extra consideration” **Der Trihs**" is, he’ll be around for forever. Der Trihs is given no extra consideration. If/When the rules are changed so that everyone who posts in the manner that Der Trihs posts are in violation of them, then Der Trihs will have to change or be banned. Until I begin to see every other post that resembles Der Trihs’s posts Reported, I see no reason to single him out for “extra consideration” just because he posts more of that nonsense (not different nonsense) than other posters. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/89 "2010-02-02T22:39:29Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I will add this, that if **mswas** is given a tenth of the “extra consideration” **Der Trihs**" is, he’ll be around for forever. I’ll have to point out that mswas was not warned for starting the thread. He was warned for insulting someone in Great Debates. Are you saying that Der Trihs is doing this ten times more often than mswas? I don’t keep track of who does what, but this does not seem accurate to me. ---
**Author:** ![bettyporkta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@bettyporkta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bettyporkta)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/90 "2010-02-02T22:41:38Z")
when you gotta go, you gotta go…! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/91 "2010-02-02T22:44:41Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > I’ll have to point out that mswas was not warned for starting the thread. He was warned for insulting someone in Great Debates. Are you saying that Der Trihs is doing this ten times more often than mswas? I don’t keep track of who does what, but this does not seem accurate to me. Yes, **mswas** was Warned for insulting someone, a mod. I stated that plainly in my original post. Sorry if there was subsequent confusion. DT doesn’t really start threads, at least not in GD. He does constantly spew ignorant content-free hatred. It is my opinion that he should have been banned a hundred times over. even if for breaking the Don’t Be A Jerk rule. ---
**Author:** ![ajb867](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@ajb867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajb867)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/92 "2010-02-02T22:46:17Z")
I’m not berating Marley or the other moderators at all. There is no doubt that mswas has broken the rules. I perceived a banning to be almost immediately forth coming after reading the start of this thread, and that may still be the outcome. I am just offering my opinion of the situation and that mswas even with the infractions does contribute positively to the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/93 "2010-02-02T22:47:19Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Der Trihs is given no extra consideration. If/When the rules are changed so that everyone who posts in the manner that Der Trihs posts are in violation of them, then Der Trihs will have to change or be banned. Until I begin to see every other post that resembles Der Trihs’s posts Reported, I see no reason to single him out for “extra consideration” just because he posts more of that nonsense (not different nonsense) than other posters. Yes, and as long as you keep him around you (pl) are allowing a big stain to mar the brand of SDMB. Not to mention give credence to any accusation of this board’s administration as being unbiased. Well done! ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/94 "2010-02-02T22:53:10Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > DT doesn’t really start threads, at least not in GD. He does constantly spew ignorant content-free hatred. And mswas has been warned in the past by a moderator for spewing ignorant content-free hatred, even though he does it much less often than Der Trihs? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/95 "2010-02-02T22:57:08Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Yes, and as long as you keep him around you (pl) are allowing \*\*a big stain to mar the brand \*\*of SDMB. Not to mention give credence to any accusation of this board’s administration as being unbiased. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/96 "2010-02-02T23:04:48Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > And mswas has been warned in the past by a moderator for spewing ignorant content-free hatred, even though he does it much less often than Der Trihs? You’re implying that a drew an equivalence in the nature of their infractions. I didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/97 "2010-02-02T23:06:45Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Well, **mswas** fucked up a little and the board might soon be the poorer for it. Yeah, she insulted a mod in GD, and that is against the rules. But, come on, this was pretty minor, you have to admit. And it all stemmed from **Marley23** just happening to see and post in her thread 1 minute after it was opened. I’m not saying **Marley’s** doing that was wrong, but I can see it from **mswas’s** point of view (I think). Her thread was not unlike many threads posted on GD. Hell, one poster alone, **BrainGlutton** , has probably bumped up his obscenely impressive/ridiculous post count by a few hundred doing the exact same thing. So, in light of that, combined with a few current threads discussing moderation bias, **mswas** was probably a little too touchy about what she perceived, understandably, as a mod coming after her yet again. When elsewhere in the SDMB universe, we have **Der Trihs** spewing his content-free ignorant hatred without so much as a peep from a mod. Wonderful. A brand new soapbox for Magellan to get on and complain about other posters. How about we stay focused on this particular poster and this particular situation, m’kay? I realize you have a crusade going to rid GD of those you deem unworthy, but this is not the venue for it. > [@](#): > > I hope the mods take into account both the very positive contribution he makes to the board and the rather minor nature of this infraction, wrong as she was for leveling the insult in GD. His destiny is in his own hands now. He’s not stupid, he knows the deal. Coming here to whine about it is a joke, too. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/98 "2010-02-02T23:07:34Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > It’s not a bug, it’s a feature! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/99 "2010-02-02T23:10:08Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Wonderful. A brand new soapbox for Magellan to get on and complain about other posters. How about we stay focused on this particular poster and this particular situation, m’kay? How about I post what I want, m’kay? > [@tacoloco](#): > > I realize you have a crusade going to rid GD of those you deem unworthy, but this is not the venue for it. …and you leave the modding to the mods, m’kay, Junior? ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/100 "2010-02-02T23:12:33Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > How about I post what I want, m’kay? Yeah, yeah. Keep on keeping on with the crusade. > [@](#): > > …and you leave the modding to the mods, m’kay, Junior? How about, no. If you think I’m junior modding, report the post. Otherwise, :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417.md?page=6)