# A Pre-Emptive Goodbye **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 2, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417 "2010-02-02T18:27:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/101 "2010-02-02T23:23:55Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Yes, and as long as you keep him around you (pl) are allowing a big stain to mar the brand of SDMB. Not to mention give credence to any accusation of this board’s administration as being unbiased. > > Well done! As long as you pick on Der Trihs and ignore the other posters who post in similar fashions, you are displaying your biases and demonstrating that you only wish to attack him, not his actions. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/102 "2010-02-02T23:59:42Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The hell with being perfect, he swears up and down in the OP he’s not even interested in making an effort. And given how fucking _obnoxious_ the “Here’s an article that I read but am too lazy to write an OP about. Debate!” crap is, I’m all in favor of handing out warnings for that. Hell-I’m in favor of the mods giving out the home address of people who do “Article Quote: Discuss” OPs so Dopers in their area can go to their homes and beat them with sacks filled with doorknobs.\* And when I found out that you DIDN’T warn him for that but for him calling you a dick?! You disappointed me Marley. You let me down. ☹ 😉 \*This is not an actual threat. Should anyone’s home address be given out as a result of this sort of OP and be subsequently beaten with a sack filled with doorknobs, I absolve myself of all liability. ---
**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/103 "2010-02-03T00:50:19Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Hey guys, I’m gonna say goodbye in case I’m banned too. > > Anyone else want to say goodbye too? No but I would like to state publicly that I have no intention of accepting the England captains position\* should Capello decide to take it from John Terry. \*In the wardrobe, on all fours with your mates wife ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/104 "2010-02-03T00:56:21Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > You first said something different. When you changed your complaint, you pretended that it was for a current situation. No, I didn’t lol. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/105 "2010-02-03T00:57:23Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > If he has a moderation complaint, then he should have opened a thread for that. > > This thread, OTOH, makes it seem like we’re supposed to have a pity party for poor downtrodden **mswas**. > > The whole preemptive goodbye thing rubs me the wrong way. Straw man. I never argued that you should have pity for me. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/106 "2010-02-03T00:58:11Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Straw man. I never argued that you should have pity for me. 😉 No, dude, it’s painfully obvious. Man up already. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/107 "2010-02-03T00:58:24Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Bye! 🙂 See ya around! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/108 "2010-02-03T01:03:34Z")
> [@ajb867](#): > > So perhaps he is Bi-polar? His permanent removal from the board I think will be overall a downer. I mean hell there are days were I actually miss Carol Stream, usually that’s after reading one of Ivn’s post in the pit. He seemed to just be a fly on the wall prior to Carol’s banning. I think the distinct personalities bring flavor to the SDMB. I’ll concede rules are rules and you Moderators have to do your job. I just don’t want to see the pre-emptive goodbye thread immediately turn in to the out the door thread which is the way it seemed to be headed. If I get banned from the board, I’ll be sad for about 15 minutes. Really, honestly. There are tons of other message boards on the internet. I know how to build one myself. It really doesn’t matter that much to me. I’m not saying I WANT to leave, but it’s not that big of a deal to me if I do. Sure, I go up and down, but believe me, getting permanently banned from the Straight Dope just won’t matter that much to me. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/109 "2010-02-03T01:07:21Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > No, dude, it’s painfully obvious. > > Man up already. LOL You do realize that I never even knew you existed until the last controversy when you injected yourself right into the middle as an aggrieved party because I posted about Mary Jo Kopechne and how your feelings were hurt, and what a meanie-head I was. So really, I really don’t care about your opinion. If I am the Drama Queen of this thread, I guess that makes you the Drama Lady of the Court. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/110 "2010-02-03T01:07:44Z")
Dude lol, lol dude ;)🙂 hahaha lol ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/111 "2010-02-03T01:10:12Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Dude lol, lol dude ;)🙂 hahaha lol Enjoying the going away cake? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/112 "2010-02-03T01:11:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You’re implying that a drew an equivalence in the nature of their infractions. I didn’t. OK, I get it. We have poster A doing something, and poster B doing something totally different, and you are upset that A is accused of breaking rules, whereas B isn’t. Perhaps it could be that A is actually breaking rules, and B isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/113 "2010-02-03T01:13:00Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > So really, I really don’t care about your opinion. Oh, you really told me, didn’t you. I’m not the one who started a poor me thread. Let me play some little violins for your predicament. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/114 "2010-02-03T01:14:06Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > If I get banned from the board, I’ll be sad for about 15 minutes. Really, honestly. There are tons of other message boards on the internet. I know how to build one myself. It really doesn’t matter that much to me. I’m not saying I WANT to leave, but it’s not that big of a deal to me if I do. Sure, I go up and down, but believe me, getting permanently banned from the Straight Dope just won’t matter that much to me. Oh sure you will. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/115 "2010-02-03T01:24:42Z")
Mswas. We have crossed paths many times. Often I have thought you to be the supertard (and you probably thought the same of me). Your arguments have often irritated the hell out of me. Sometimes, though, we have even agreed on occasion and I think you might have even had my back a time or two. So, at the very least, you don’t carry a grudge (or have one shitty memory 🙂 ). If you end up banished best of luck out there. You can be irritating (at least to me), but IMO you are far from ban worthy material. Perhaps I’ve missed the really good stuff though. In any case take care! Blll ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/116 "2010-02-03T02:39:11Z")
**mswas** , why not just “let it be” overnight? You meant this as a pre-emptive goodbye thread just in case, right? You weren’t intending to use it to air grievances. So, just in case…I’ve always read your posts and I never know what I will find. Sometimes I agree and sometimes I think “wwwhut?” If you do get banned, I will genuinely miss you. I hope that you feel a lot better soon. You seem to have been so down lately. Are you doing anything about that for yourself? Please sit up straight, eat your veggies, and be respectful to our Overlords. Don’t seal yourself off from us while you are either mopey or hostile. (I would also like to add “rich” to that list.) _Dona nobis pacem_ ---
**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/117 "2010-02-03T02:52:14Z")
I’d miss anyone (ok, almost anyone) who’s not part of the hive-mind here, and even aside from that I think you’ve had some interesting things to say. So goodbye, if that’s what this is, and good luck. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/118 "2010-02-03T03:01:21Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > As long as you pick on Der Trihs and ignore the other posters who post in similar fashions, you are displaying your biases and demonstrating that you only wish to attack him, not his actions. No. You’re missing an important, critical distinction: I’m not attacking **Der Trihs** , I’m attacking the board administration, using **Der Trihs’s** continued presence here as evidence of their bias. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/119 "2010-02-03T03:08:11Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > If I get banned from the board, I’ll be sad for about 15 minutes. Really, honestly. There are tons of other message boards on the internet. I know how to build one myself. It really doesn’t matter that much to me. I’m not saying I WANT to leave, but it’s not that big of a deal to me if I do. Sure, I go up and down, but believe me, getting permanently banned from the Straight Dope just won’t matter that much to me. Good attitude. Sorry to see ya go and I hope to see you somewhere else. Cheers! > [@magellan01](#): > > Yeah, she insulted a mod in GD, and that is against the rules. But, come on, this was pretty minor, you have to admit. Er, no. It’s a clear rule violation. The rule is sound. It’s not _that_ hard to follow. Furthermore, the mods are volunteers: showing a little deference seems to me like common courtesy - though I hasten to add that this aspect is rarely pushed here. > [@](#): > > When elsewhere in the SDMB universe, we have Der Trihs spewing his content-free ignorant hatred without so much as a peep from a mod. Content-free bile in GD doesn’t violate any rule, except if you want to say that it violates the DBaJ rule. Which you do, but I’m not convinced. And to be fair, Der occasionally posts content, though that’s not typical. I’m not a big fan of magellan, but I suppose we _could_ debate a “Content-free bile” guideline for the mods. Be aware though, that even rough guidelines can be surprisingly difficult to draw up and enforce. We could also debate whether “Content-free bile” constitutes Best Practices for posters. As I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t think Best Rhetorical Practices receives enough attention here, relatively speaking. I’ll concede that it’s plausible that Der is a bit of a one man army: he _might_ have single-handedly shifted the tone (for the worse) in GD. I’ve wondered about that, but I’ve also noted that his thoughts on theology and US warfare have reflected certain currents in American life. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417/120 "2010-02-03T03:53:27Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > No. You’re missing an important, critical distinction: I’m not attacking **Der Trihs** , I’m attacking the board administration, using **Der Trihs’s** continued presence here as evidence of their bias. It is not a critical distinction. Your only beef with the staff is that we do not carry out your wishes regarding Der Trihs while you display no desire for the staff to take action against other posters engaged in the same behavior. Since you make no complaint abot the staff failing to take action against other posters with the same characterisitics, (especially those with opposing philosophical perspectives), it is clear that the bias resides in you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pre-emptive-goodbye/527417.md?page=7)