# A President Bush Rant **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116 "2007-02-14T00:27:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/1 "2007-02-14T00:27:31Z")
President George Herbert Walker Bush and President George Walker Bush are not properly termed Senior and Junior. Their names are not identical. Knock it off. I prefer Bush the Elder and Bush the [del]Psycho[/del] Younger myself, but - whatever trips your trigger. Just, please, not the blatantly wrong Senior and Junior. Thanks so much. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/2 "2007-02-14T00:29:53Z")
Also, could someone please explain to me what the deal is with airplane peanuts? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/3 "2007-02-14T00:30:07Z")
You know this is only going to make people use it more often, don’t you? It’s a useful short-hand, which is why I use it. I know they’re not Sr/Jr, but all I’m trying to do is indicate which one I’m talking about, if the context makes it unclear. Language is like that, you know-- whatever works gets used. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/4 "2007-02-14T00:33:29Z")
You could always use George the First and George the Second. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/5 "2007-02-14T00:35:23Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] You know this is only going to make people use it more often, don’t you? [/quote] I’m that influential? 😃 Part of it’s personal. I got a different middle name from my dad specifically so I would not grow up being called Junior. It still happened, even though we have different nicknames for Francis. It grates; what can I say? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/6 "2007-02-14T00:35:31Z")
or 43 and 41 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/7 "2007-02-14T00:47:20Z")
Ok, I will agree to use Bush the Elder and Bush the Psycho. I can live with this. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/8 "2007-02-14T00:50:40Z")
How about George the Lesser and George the _Really_ Lesser? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/9 "2007-02-14T00:54:34Z")
[QUOTE=wring] or 43 and 41 [/QUOTE] So you’re saying that neither of them are the answer to life, the universe and everything? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/10 "2007-02-14T00:57:27Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] So you’re saying that neither of them are the answer to life, the universe and everything? [/QUOTE] Bill Clinton! (Where’s the smiley of the Home Alone kid with his hands pressed to his cheeks, all astonished?) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/11 "2007-02-14T01:00:19Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Just, please, not the blatantly wrong Senior and Junior. Thanks so much. [/QUOTE] The only way that it would be “blatantly wrong” would be in the construction, George Bush, Sr. and George Bush, Jr. Using the casual references “senior” and “junior” do not violate the strict rules of genealogical nomenclature and would appear to mark you as the worst sort of pedant–a pedant in error. Lo. How the mighty are fallen! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/12 "2007-02-14T01:03:13Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Where’s the smiley of the Home Alone kid with his hands pressed to his cheeks, all astonished? [/QUOTE] It would look just like Munch’s “The Scream”, wouldn’t it? Yep, that would be a good one. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/13 "2007-02-14T01:19:20Z")
Mod fight! Mod fight! ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/14 "2007-02-14T01:21:22Z")
Can’t we call them Number 1 and Number 2. As in, “I gotta go Number 2”? ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/15 "2007-02-14T01:27:45Z")
I like “Papa Bush” and “Baby Bush”, but that’s probably unfair (either to the Bush’s or the Duvalier’s, you decide) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/16 "2007-02-14T01:30:53Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] Using the casual references “senior” and “junior” do not violate the strict rules of genealogical nomenclature and would appear to mark you as the worst sort of pedant–a pedant in error. [/QUOTE] Piffle, sir, piffle. They are _capitalizing_ them! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/17 "2007-02-14T01:41:44Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] They are _capitalizing_ them! [/QUOTE] And just what do you have against capitalizing them? How do you expect then to survive in a free market without capital? _(You got a citation that a reference to “Smith Senior” violates some arcane genealogical ordinance, statute, or bylaw?)_ ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/18 "2007-02-14T01:47:35Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] How about George the Lesser and George the _Really_ Lesser? [/QUOTE] George the Least? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/19 "2007-02-14T01:48:12Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] How about George the Lesser and George the _Really_ Lesser? [/QUOTE] Or Bush 41 and George the [Lesses](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lesses). ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116/20 "2007-02-14T02:01:42Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] _(You got a citation that a reference to “Smith Senior” violates some arcane genealogical ordinance, statute, or bylaw?)_ [/QUOTE] My post is my cite. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-president-bush-rant/392116.md?page=2)