# A product that COMPLETELY fails **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 1, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475 "2008-04-01T02:16:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/61 "2008-04-02T03:19:46Z")
[QUOTE=beowulff] Oh yeah? I have need of a glue that can bond polypropylene to Nylon. If E6000 can do it, I’ll give it Godly status, if not, it’s just a minor deity. You can **NOT** believe how hard it is to find something that will stick these two materials together… [/QUOTE] UHU Por, also called UHU Creativ in some markets, try it. ---
**Author:** ![Noel\_Prosequi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b19c9b/32.png) [@Noel\_Prosequi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noel_Prosequi)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/62 "2008-04-02T05:54:41Z")
[QUOTE=lieu] … fecal deathsnake… [/QUOTE] Best heavy metal band of all time. But back on topic - home brand facial tissues. Honestly, you might as well blow your nose on your bare hands for all the use they are. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/63 "2008-04-02T07:12:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Hair “conditioner”. I don’t think anyone even knows what this is supposed to do. I have medium length, curly hair. You couldn’t detangle my hair without conditoner. You can barely detangle it if you have the _wrong_ conditioner. (They just “updated” my brand, and the new version doesn’t work as well. Still better than nothing, but trust me, you could tell.) Drano also works to dissolve the hair that I can’t keep out of the drain. Method brand cleaning products. Great. They’re saving the earth or whatever, good for them. But when I use Dawn my dishes get clean. When I use their crap in a bottle, they don’t. They might even get slimier. But no way am I eating off of that. Same with the wipes (again, Comet cleans. Method - not so much.) Theoretically, I’d love to do more environmentally friendly products. But after a few Method uses, I realized that the whole purpose of cleaning is killing the environment in my kitchen and bathroom. So, I’m using that crap anymore. ---
**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/64 "2008-04-02T14:21:11Z")
[QUOTE=amarinth] Method brand cleaning products. Great. They’re saving the earth or whatever, good for them. But when I use Dawn my dishes get clean. When I use their crap in a bottle, they don’t. They might even get slimier. But no way am I eating off of that. Same with the wipes (again, Comet cleans. Method - not so much.) Theoretically, I’d love to do more environmentally friendly products. But after a few Method uses, I realized that the whole purpose of cleaning is killing the environment in my kitchen and bathroom. So, I’m using that crap anymore. [/QUOTE] If it helps, I can heartily recommend Biokleen laundry detergent (big jug [here](http://www.goodcommonsense.net/bilali64oz.html)), and the green works line from (Clorox? P&G? It’s slipping my mind right now.) The “bathroom cleaner” wasn’t all that good, but that may be because we kind of got into a battle of the wills and no one cleaned our bathroom (out of two or three people living here, depending on timeframe) for probably 3 or 4 months. It wasn’t disgusting, just dirty. (We’re all men :p) The toilet bowl cleaner also makes a good replacement for Soft Scrub, one of my favorite cleaning products. ---
**Author:** ![brendon\_small](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brendon_small/32/17101_2.png) [@brendon\_small](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brendon_small)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/65 "2008-04-02T14:56:05Z")
[QUOTE=Squeaker Snow] Those “steam” things that are supposed to blast mildew/dirt/grime/etc. off of tile, etc. I bought one off of one of the tv shopping channels a few years ago and the darned thing didn’t work at all the way it did on tv. [/QUOTE] Apologies if this was cleared up later in the thread, but are you talking about something like [this](http://www.amazon.com/Shark-Ultra-Steam-Blaster-S3325/dp/B000BQSJVK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1207147766&sr=8-6)? I’m curious because I actually never heard of them marketed as a cleaning tool other than here and on Amazon a few minutes ago. I thought they were for removing wallpaper (?) (It did this well, but I have no idea if it was supposed to). Brendon Small ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/66 "2008-04-02T19:09:11Z")
[QUOTE=Ponch8] For a second, I thought that you were going to say that you nearly had a heart attack because your pacemaker failed. Wouldn’t that be a failure! [/QUOTE] Don’t laugh. You might remember the stories about the pacemaker type that had defective wires and randomly gave people shocks. I also had reason to look at the design of a chip used by one pacemaker company, and it was the biggest piece of crap imaginable. In fact that design became kind of a joke. After I saw that, I started exercising more. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/67 "2008-04-02T19:35:37Z")
[QUOTE=beowulff] Oh yeah? I have need of a glue that can bond polypropylene to Nylon. If E6000 can do it, I’ll give it Godly status, if not, it’s just a minor deity. You can **NOT** believe how hard it is to find something that will stick these two materials together… [/QUOTE] How about Super Glue’s new product, [Future Glue](http://superglue.supergluecorp.com/15104.html)? Have you tried that? It claims to work on all plastics, including polypropylene. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/68 "2008-04-02T20:52:06Z")
[QUOTE=lizardling] Really? I have the one marketed for cats, and it works pretty well. There is much less death pong floating around than if I left the leavings to ferment in the box. 😕 [/QUOTE] How on earth do you get your cats to wear the diaper in the first place? 😕 😛 ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/69 "2008-04-02T21:22:21Z")
[QUOTE=Danalan] How about Super Glue’s new product, [Future Glue](http://superglue.supergluecorp.com/15104.html)? Have you tried that? It claims to work on all plastics, including polypropylene. [/QUOTE] Actually yes, I have tried it and it works. It’s just not very convenient for our needs, and it would be better if it was less brittle, but I think we may end up using the industrial version in production. For a laugh, look at this: [http://www.allsealsinc.com/pdfs/3M\_Scotch\_Weld\_Structural\_Adhesives\_Selection\_Guide.pdf](http://www.allsealsinc.com/pdfs/3M_Scotch_Weld_Structural_Adhesives_Selection_Guide.pdf) It’s a grid of all the combinations of materials that one might want to glue together, and what glues might work. What’s the one square that’s empty? Nylon + Polypropylene! ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/70 "2008-04-02T21:37:26Z")
I second the Soft Scrub–the opening clogs and becomes an obstacle after the first few uses. I use Drano just fine in the bathroom; it’s never done a thing in the kitchen for me. I also second the cat box liners–who thought of this? I bought one box (stupid me) and then the penny dropped. :smack: I used Super Glue to glue #2 son’s lens into his frame–I got tired of it falling out (his lenses are thick, but he prefers wire frames). It worked like charm. And what is it with pumps on lotion bottles etc? There is still a sizable portion of lotion left in the container–but the pump will not pump it out. I have 2 such containers right now. I unscrew the pump dispenser thing, put some lotion on my hands and replace the dispenser. Grrrr. ---
**Author:** ![Tikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@Tikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tikki)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/71 "2008-04-02T22:53:36Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] Solution: use liquid Drano where you would have used Comet. Just apply and wipe off, really! Sure, it might stain and or crack and or have an adverse chemical reaction with your surfaces, but it works for me! [/QUOTE] Oh, and it’ll take the chrome off that ring doodlybopper on the drain opening. Not that I’ve learned that lesson the hard way personally…especially in a unit I was renting…or anything like that… ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/72 "2008-04-02T22:57:04Z")
There are these strips of adhesive plastic that are supposed to allow you to (essentially) rip out extra hairs from between your brows or in the “mustache” area. I forget what they’re called. They don’t work at all. I think they might have ripped one hair off once. I don’t have a lot of facial hair (really!), maybe they work better on full on stubble? So, it’s back to plucking… ---
**Author:** ![Tikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@Tikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tikki)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/73 "2008-04-02T23:06:00Z")
[QUOTE=Tikki] Oh, and it’ll take the chrome off that ring doodlybopper on the drain opening. Not that I’ve learned that lesson the hard way personally…especially in a unit I was renting…or anything like that… [/QUOTE] Oops, I got to thinking and it wasn’t Drano that (allegedly) did that; it was some kind of super toilet bowl cleaner stuff. Missed the edit window. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/74 "2008-04-02T23:26:43Z")
[QUOTE=amarinth] Method brand cleaning products. Great. They’re saving the earth or whatever, good for them. But when I use Dawn my dishes get clean. When I use their crap in a bottle, they don’t. They might even get slimier. But no way am I eating off of that. Same with the wipes (again, Comet cleans. Method - not so much.) Theoretically, I’d love to do more environmentally friendly products. But after a few Method uses, I realized that the whole purpose of cleaning is killing the environment in my kitchen and bathroom. So, I’m using that crap anymore. [/QUOTE] I like their all-purpose cleaner and their tub-n-tile cleaner for most cleanups, though admittedly you may need to let them sit for the worst jobs. I’ve never tried the dishwashing liquid or wipes, though. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/75 "2008-04-02T23:46:14Z")
[QUOTE=Ferret Herder] I’ve never tried the dishwashing liquid or wipes, though. [/QUOTE] I read that as “dishwashing liquor wipes” and was momentarily confused… ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/76 "2008-04-02T23:51:07Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] and probably most of the stuff [on this page](http://opalcat.com/Fun/snake-oil)… [/QUOTE] After seeing those “massager” ads, I think you might enjoy [this webcomic](http://www.daniellecorsetto.com/GWS453.html). (The short-haired lady with glasses is the birthday girl’s mother; the gift-giver, Clarice, works in a porn store.) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/77 "2008-04-03T00:11:00Z")
[QUOTE=Noel Prosequi] But back on topic - home brand facial tissues. Honestly, you might as well blow your nose on your bare hands for all the use they are. [/QUOTE] I’ve found that the Kleenex 3-ply tissues work great. I realized _how_ great after I got cheap and bought some Scotties 2-ply tissues - I have to use two of these at a time. > [@eleanorigby](#): > > And what is it with pumps on lotion bottles etc? My problem with these are the ones where the spigot (spout? nozzle?) is not sufficiently curved downward. The bottle I have now, the second time I used it I held my hand under the spigot and depressed the plunger … and the lotion shot out in a straight line and got me in the middle of the chest. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/78 "2008-04-03T02:20:16Z")
Or they get clogged with that gross little waxy hardened blob and then when it goes the lotion squirts out in some totally random direction. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/79 "2008-04-03T02:32:11Z")
[QUOTE=Leaffan] And my 3 iron. My 3 iron never works the way it’s supposed to. 😉 [/QUOTE] You can use a 1 iron as a lightning rod, 'cause not even God can hit a 1 iron. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475/80 "2008-04-03T05:34:30Z")
[QUOTE=glee] I live in the UK, but like many US films and TV shows. 🙂 So I bought a multi-region DVD player from Ph_l_ps. The advert said ‘multi-region’. the manual said ‘multi-region’. 🙂 It only plays DVDs for region 2 (UK). :smack: I contacted Ph_l_ps. They haven’t replied. [/QUOTE] When my old hacked Aiwa from Singapore conked out, I bought one from J-List. Even shipping across the Pacific, the price was still reasonable (though it took about a month to arrive), and for a no-name brand it’s worked just fine for the year and change that I’ve been using it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-product-that-completely-fails/443475.md?page=5)