# A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him

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**Created:** [December 17, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267 "2012-12-17T03:46:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/1 "2012-12-17T03:46:49Z")

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I’m sure it’s an apocryphal story, but still amusing -

[A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him](http://theburiedlife.tumblr.com/post/33811181290/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and)

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/2 "2012-12-17T03:49:13Z")

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I think the message would have been more potent if he used Everclear instead of beer.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/3 "2012-12-17T03:58:24Z")

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I’ll bet the brand of beer he used was “Glurge.”

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/4 "2012-12-17T04:02:38Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> I’ll bet the brand of beer he used was “Glurge.”

Awww. You only have to wait an hour till you can have a full on set of the Mondays on the east coast.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/5 "2012-12-18T02:44:02Z")

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Very amusing.

Specifically, the part where the professor gets a class of philosophy students to “agree” that a jar of golf balls is “full.”

Professor: Is this jar full?  
Realist: No, there’s gaps.  
Skeptic: We can’t tell.  
Nihilist: There isn’t even a jar.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/6 "2012-12-18T03:03:45Z")

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Optimist: The glass if hall-full.  
Pessimist: The glass if hall-empty.  
Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/7 "2012-12-18T03:24:04Z")

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I kind of doubt whoever wrote that ever took a philosophy class. It’s not “philosophy” in the sense of “your approach to life”.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/8 "2012-12-18T03:28:06Z")

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Heard that one sometime at least 15 years ago.

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**Author:** ![iftheresaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ecae2f/32.png) [@iftheresaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iftheresaway)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/9 "2012-12-18T04:39:35Z")

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Yeah, when I heard it it was “big rocks” instead of golf balls, with the moral being “get your big rocks in first”. (Same idea that big rocks = important stuff). And that version used water, rather than beer.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/10 "2012-12-18T05:07:44Z")

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Computer Scientist: This is isomorphic to the knapsack problem. Therefore we can conclude that finding an optimal ordering of life priorities is NP-hard.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/11 "2012-12-18T05:11:14Z")

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Ok, so life is a mayonaisse jar full of golf balls, pebbles, sand, and beer. Sounds about right.

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**Author:** ![Sleel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@Sleel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleel)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/12 "2012-12-18T05:34:39Z")

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Physicist: Well, all matter is mostly just empty space, so technically you should start with some exotic matter like neutronium…  
Chemist: You could fit way more in there if you use hydrofluoric acid to dissolve all those rocks…

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/13 "2012-12-18T06:50:43Z")

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> [@Sleel](#):
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> Physicist: Well, all matter is mostly just empty space, so technically you should start with some exotic matter like neutronium…  
> Chemist: You could fit way more in there if you use hydrofluoric acid to dissolve all those rocks…

Bad idea. What happens to the glass jar when HF hits it? 😛

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/14 "2012-12-18T07:14:58Z")

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You need to define “full.” Otherwise, it’s just bullshit.

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/15 "2012-12-18T07:28:53Z")

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It was a rather dumb or at least naive class to agree that the jar was full after the pebbles.

Remember as George Bush put it:  
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — [pause] — shame on you. Fool me — [pause] — You can’t get fooled again.”

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/16 "2012-12-18T11:18:17Z")

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Someone did that in my church once.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/17 "2012-12-18T12:02:08Z")

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I don’t get it.

So exactly which brand of mayonnaise was it?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/18 "2012-12-18T12:28:02Z")

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Pouring beer into sand?!

Why would you waste perfectly good sand like that?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/19 "2012-12-18T12:37:56Z")

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Doper: You need to define “full.” Otherwise, it’s just bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-professor-stood-before-his-philosophy-class-and-had-some-items-in-front-of-him/644267/20 "2012-12-18T12:56:18Z")

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The lesson I took from this is that you can never devote more than [100π/3√2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-packing_of_equal_spheres) percent of your life to important things. 🙂

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