# A prospective employer call you a liar?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 18, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227 "2015-08-18T23:59:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/21 "2015-08-19T19:49:48Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> I don’t, and claimed I don’t AKA the truth. They said they knew this was an obvious lie multiple times.

And if you finally gave in and said that you did have a degree, would they then have said “Hah! No you don’t! You’re lying, get out of here.”

This is why nobody likes to work for the Spanish Inquisition.  
Now if I can find an employer who insists I’ve won a Turing Award …

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/22 "2015-08-20T00:14:25Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> Only briefly. I decided court jester would be much more fulfilling.

Although an unemployed jester is nobody’s fool.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/23 "2015-08-20T00:22:42Z")

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I have multiple degrees. I have a Bachelors’ in Engineering, a Masters’ in Management, earned a PhD when I was 18\*, and am a 22d degree Paladin in my local gaming group, and got a 1st degree burn from my grill last weekend. So yes, Ms Recruiter, I would say that I’m highly qualified for this position.

\*Note: I earned my Public high Diploma at 18.

Tripler  
. . . they call me “Dr. Love.”

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/24 "2015-08-20T01:43:01Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Jester hours can be tough, idiots usually only work during the morning and evening rush hours. Jesters do get to hang out after the feast and eat leftovers though.
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> And really, the jester is just the idiot with a nicer set of clothes.

Seriously? Those stupid hats? Not to mention the shoes.

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/25 "2015-08-20T02:24:09Z")

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> [@Tripler](#):
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> I have multiple degrees. I have a Bachelors’ in Engineering, a Masters’ in Management, earned a PhD when I was 18\*, and am a 22d degree Paladin in my local gaming group, and got a 1st degree burn from my grill last weekend. So yes, Ms Recruiter, I would say that I’m highly qualified for this position.
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> \*Note: I earned my Public high Diploma at 18.
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> Tripler  
> . . . they call me “Dr. Love.”

I used to tell girls I was finishing the last few courses to get my MBA.

(I’m sure they knew I meant Most Ballin’ Anglo award, so I never bothered clarifying. What else could it be?)

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**Author:** ![Nefario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/59ef9b/32.png) [@Nefario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nefario)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/26 "2015-08-20T02:27:53Z")

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I had an interview with an engineering manager who questioned that I really was an inventor on a number of patents when he had like 3. Later at the departure interview he challenged, “HA! I looked those patents up! There’s 10 people on some of them! What did you do???” To which I explained that when you build a complex product with 100’s of parts, multiple inventors on a patent is common.

His company made widgets with maybe 10 parts.

By 9AM that morning I had already decided this place wasn’t a match… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/27 "2015-08-20T06:37:24Z")

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Yes, sir; you are right. I am a liar. For instance, I said it was an honor to meet you and that I am looking forward to working for your company. In truth, I consider you a bloated hemorrhoid ,and your company makes Salieri’s madhouse look like an ad for IBM.

Can I get my parking validated?

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/28 "2015-08-20T16:24:06Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> Are they trying to say they think you’re overqualified?

Good point. Obviously the employer saw _something_ in you that made him suspect that you actually did have a degree. That could be taken as a complement - that he perceived some level of smartness, wisdom, or maturity that he would not have expected someone without a degree to have.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/29 "2015-08-20T16:36:04Z")

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> [@Nefario](#):
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> I had an interview with an engineering manager who questioned that I really was an inventor on a number of patents when he had like 3. Later at the departure interview he challenged, “HA! I looked those patents up! There’s 10 people on some of them! What did you do???” To which I explained that when you build a complex product with 100’s of parts, multiple inventors on a patent is common.

For anyone who hasn’t been through this, there are requirements about who gets to be on a patent. You can’t add the names of everyone who was in the elevator when it was discussed, which I understand is how co-authorship of many biology papers is done.

Names are in alphabetical order, so for some of my patents I’m first on the list when I did the least and last on the list when I did the most.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/30 "2015-08-20T17:32:46Z")

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> [@movingfinger](#):
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> Yes, sir; you are right. I am a liar. For instance, I said it was an honor to meet you and that I am looking forward to working for your company. In truth, I consider you a bloated hemorrhoid ,and your company makes Salieri’s madhouse look like an ad for IBM.
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> Can I get my parking validated?

Hurt myself trying to keep the laughter in, damn you! 😃

OP, can you explain exactly what they asked, and what you claimed???

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/31 "2015-08-20T18:05:17Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> OP, can you explain exactly what they asked, and what you claimed???

It’s the islands, mon, it’s how de roll.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/32 "2015-08-20T18:28:49Z")

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I’m trying to wrap my brain around that but I can’t. Pretending for a minute that I don’t have a degree, if a prospective employer insisted to me that I must, then I would ask them from what school and to produce it.

I can prove that I have one. But I can’t prove the negative that I don’t. Thus, it seems the onus is on the prospective employer to prove it, seeing as how neither of us could prove the negative.

All that said, I wouldn’t work for a company where the interviewer directly contradicted me like that, IF the interviewer would be my future supervising manager. I think you dodged a bullet there.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/33 "2015-08-20T19:47:44Z")

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I wonder if the manager is saying:  
“You act too smart, boy, you speak English good and all. We don’t cotton to no pointy head college grads around here, we want real downhome workers. You take your larnin’ elsewhere, you can’t fool me.”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-prospective-employer-call-you-a-liar/728227/34 "2015-08-20T19:53:46Z")

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Given where \*\*grude \*\*lives and the rest of his schtick, I can’t imagine it was anything else.

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