# A Q for Libertarian on Libertaria **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 11, 2001, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-q-for-libertarian-on-libertaria/65140 "2001-05-11T23:03:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-q-for-libertarian-on-libertaria/65140/221 "2001-05-25T17:25:26Z")
> [@](#): > > I think most parties in this debate have emerged the better for it. > > pan I’ll agree with that, and with the praise for **erislover**. ( **erl** , I want to reply to your commentary regarding my remarks, but I’ll have to make some time for that in the next few days.) **Lib** had already (prior to this thread) educated me into a better acceptance of libertarianism as a philosophy. Truth be told, my criticism of modern libertarians as having “dispossessed” Jefferson’s pragmatic liberalism can even more validly be applied to modern **liberals**. I remain very hopeful that libertarian ideals of minimal government continue to be stressed in public discourse, and I hope this thread continues in such a positive vein. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-q-for-libertarian-on-libertaria/65140/222 "2001-05-25T21:35:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by erislover \* > **Roll your eyes all you want. I merely stated that air wasn’t free. I made no comment about clean air itself.** You implied that it’s the Clean Air Act’s fault it costs so much to keep the air clean because of all the bureacracy needed to comply with it. Only a fool would claim we do not need clean air and you are not a fool. However, you implied that without the Act, it would cost less to keep it clean. MY point is that without the Act, corporations would do nothing at all to keep the air clean. Doing so cuts into their profits. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-q-for-libertarian-on-libertaria/65140/223 "2001-05-26T21:15:01Z")
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