A question about service dogs

And is completely unnecessary as Beck cannot be asked to produce it.

Well, people can ask just about anything they want, including many things that are precluded by law.

It sounds like it was an experiment on Beck’s part. Now she knows how little it takes to get “certification”.

Just in case? Sounds like it was obtained with the intention of using it.

So he’s been to dialysis with you enough to know he’s not comfortable there.

I have never understood why the ADA hasn’t updated their policy about not requiring legitimate service dogs to be registered, and issue some form of ID that can be provided on demand.

And why can you only ask those two specific questions? It’s not like a scammer can’t lie, just to be able to get their dog allowed in. It’s not like the business can ask them to prove their answers.

Seriously, the ADA can absolutely put a stop to this BS, but they don’t. I don’t get that at all.

YES!!!
I did it for edification. (And science)

I may, in fact need a service dog some day. I wanted to know the whole story about this comfort/emotional support dog thing.

Real, trained by accredited outfits, animals are not cheap. There are some charities that help offset that. I wouldn’t qualify for any of them.
You know it behooves you to know what you’re dealing with. While you have the ability to read regular printed material.

I have one actual eye. I’m late stage T1 diabetic. I could be blind at any time.

I don’t do tricky things like that. TYVM.

I had no intention of ever using it. My dialysis clinic is attached to the rehab I was at …

Oh, fuck it. Nevermind. I don’t have to defend my actions. Or explain.
You go right ahead and believe what you want.
I’m dealing with an injury right now. I had dialysis and PT today. I was dehydrated all weekend because my body just decides I need to die, occasionally.
I’m not bothered by petty nit-picking of my posts.

And let’s keep it like that. I’m so happy to not have a disability at my age, with the way I’ve abused my body and life in general. I’d rather a few low-life’s slide through the cracks than add any burden whatsoever to those with true need.

I can think of many reasons. Putting it on the dog when company comes over is one. Our dog Loki has a Superman costume she’s only worn once at home but it was worth it. When I bought it the plan was to give my gf a laugh.

Or as a gag for a photo-op. My gf spent a decent amount of money for a headless horseman costume. Really nice. She wore it once, for an hour, on Halloween. Rode Mac (RIP) her huge black quarter horse. Rode down our lane to a neighbor’s Halloween party, picked up her trophy, then rode home.

:beers:
Cheers! What I’m drinking probably wouldn’t work with your medical issues, but I’ll pass what I’m smoking your way.

(ETA: little puffs. It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon)

I said specific questions.
About your disability.

I know what they can ask.

There are people who will ask anything they want. How many blind folks have been asked that? Or to leave?
You can spout civil rights all day long and some folks think you’re making it up.
The comfort/support dog people know this. Just like me and you know it. They use it. More and more. To carry their dog into a store.

Certification should not be required, because that means people who need their service dogs, and particularly those with invisible disabilities, would get harassed because of other people’s actions.

And if the point is to keep untrained, unruly, dogs out, you can require an out-of-control or unhousebroken dog to leave. If a dog poses a threat to health and safety, you can keep it out. And if it is fundamentally incompatible with the business, it can be kept out. This is true regardless of whether the dog qualifies as a service dog.

And, a business can choose to allow a non-service dog in. If you have a disability that means you can’t be around dogs, then you can try to force the employer to not allow it. Otherwise, it’s just a decision your employer made.

But not if they have an uncertified service dog?

I don’t understand the question.

You implied people with disabilities would be harassed (in don’t understand the ‘other people’s action’ part) if their service animal were certified. What would be different if it were uncertified?

It’s a loophole. The ADA should give an ID, card, or something, to persons with a trained, certified guide dog.

Would save so much trouble.

Why did you get the paperwork if you had no intention to use it?

I suspect that “brighter” and “obedient” often don’t go together.

If there is a certification process, then presumably the certification needs to be shown to someone at some point. A person that is disabled and requires a service animal might feel that it is onerous to have to present certification when others do not.

Another thought based on @eschrodinger FAQ link:

In these cases certification would require some cost or effort beyond service training.


I think the broader point is if service animals are not the problem, then why is regulating service animals the solution?

What others? Obviously others without dogs don’t have to show any certification. Others with dogs have to leave if they can’t show certification. There is no point to that statement. It is not onerous to demonstrate that you are entitled to an exception to the law. If no certification is required then anybody can write ‘Service Dog’ on a vest and put it on any animal.

Thank you. I might just do that. :smirk: