# A question about unclviny's pit thread on gun control...

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**Created:** [November 17, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-about-unclvinys-pit-thread-on-gun-control/137175 "2002-11-17T16:48:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-about-unclvinys-pit-thread-on-gun-control/137175/1 "2002-11-17T16:48:23Z")

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Okay, it’s not really about his thread, but about something I read in the link posted in it. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=144447&perpage=50&pagenumber=1) is his thread, [this](http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/homestead/Countryside/Wc7e9855bc24ef.htm) is the link to the gun control statement, and in it is a statement I’m wondering about.

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> This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolph Hitler- 1935

So, what exactly is the point being made here? I’m not getting it. Are they advocating or arguing against gun control? Fight ignorance! Educate me! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-about-unclvinys-pit-thread-on-gun-control/137175/2 "2002-11-17T17:33:14Z")

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The point being made is that the Nazis saw gun registration as an essential part of creating a totalitarian state. It is offered as an argument against gun control, unless, of course, one favors the creation of a totalitarian state.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-about-unclvinys-pit-thread-on-gun-control/137175/3 "2002-11-17T18:25:51Z")

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The quote is also a lie promulgated by people who oppose gun control laws in order to scare undecided people into opposing gun control laws because they would, of course, oppose Hitler.

[http://www.urbanlegends.com/politics/hitler\_gun\_control.html](http://www.urbanlegends.com/politics/hitler_gun_control.html)

This is one of the reasons that I rarely dip into the gun control debates. I generally oppose gun control laws (as they have been proposed over the last 25 years), but I find so many really stupid and dishonest people spewing lies and nonsense on the subject that I feel whipsawed between arguing against the bad ideas of control proponents and telling people on “my side” to stop spewing dishonest nonsense. I think reasonable folks like **Ex Tank** have made the gun ownership case very well in the past and I don’t feel a need to make my own stomach upset by participating.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-about-unclvinys-pit-thread-on-gun-control/137175/4 "2002-11-18T00:48:25Z")

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Hitler was a sober vegetarian, too.

I would advise **Heloise** to only date guys with a healthy appetite for beer and meat. Any other description could mean he’s a Nazi. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-about-unclvinys-pit-thread-on-gun-control/137175/5 "2002-11-18T03:22:37Z")

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No problems, there, **Coldfire** , I think I’m in the clear on that one. 🙂
