# A question best suited to a rancher or cowboy

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 21, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948 "2018-03-21T04:19:43Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/21 "2018-03-21T15:49:42Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> The … lark.

Not the… lark. It’s the… larch.

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> [@Steven\_Estes](#):
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> The cowboy can tell it’s a cow or a bull—it has a lower centre of gravity than a horse–but not whether it’s a cow or a bull, because It is too far away to see horns or udders.

There are many cows with horns around, and some bulls have balls that could [easily be mistaken for udders.](http://glimpse.clemson.edu/help-for-the-overheated-bull/)

On the other hand, bulls are usually more massive than cows.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/23 "2018-03-21T16:20:37Z")

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I don’t know if this qualifies as ‘knowing the answer’ or ‘educated speculation’ but my dad was a rodeo cowboy (bareback rider) and worked at my hometown’s livestock exchange (sale barn) for 50 years and he just referred to them as cows or cattle.

Also, when a farmer has an animal of the bovine persuasion that has escaped the pasture we just say he has a cow out.

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East of the Mississippi, we just called them all cows. That’s how I learned it. Of course, they were almost exclusively female, both the neighboring milking herds and our beef cattle.

However, don’t call them “cowies”. I’m still living that down…

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/25 "2018-03-21T19:06:57Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> I wish I could mention “kine” since I like that word, but like “cattle” it’s plural.

More precisely, “kine” is the plural of “cow”, specifically.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/26 "2018-03-21T21:06:04Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Anna Creek Station has ~20,000 cattle. I am pretty sure nobody knows all the bulls by name even if less than half are bulls.

Less than half? :dubious: Good lord. We got to get you out of the house some more.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/27 "2018-03-21T22:42:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Anna Creek Station has ~20,000 cattle. I am pretty sure nobody knows all the bulls by name even if less than half are bulls.

A cattle ranch, or cattle station if you’re down under, doesn’t require a one-to-one ratio of cows to bulls. One randy bull could service quite a few cows, if that sort of thing were even allowed anymore.

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> One randy bull could service quite a few cows, if that sort of thing were even allowed anymore.

And surprisingly enough, it is [this](https://www.linkedin.com/in/randybull) one.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/29 "2018-03-21T23:01:34Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And surprisingly enough, it is [this](https://www.linkedin.com/in/randybull) one.

I’m pretty sure there are laws against that.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/30 "2018-03-22T02:33:30Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Anna Creek Station has ~20,000 cattle. I am pretty sure nobody knows all the bulls by name even if less than half are bulls.

There are way less than half bulls.

A common ratio is 1 bull to 25-30 cows, on operations that even use actual live cover anymore. Many cattle operations do not have any bulls at all – all the breeding is done by Artificial Insemination with cooled/frozen semen. This is especially common in dairy operations, with their longer-lived herds – you want to buy semen from a bull that is proven to sire cows that produce a lot of milk over their lifetime.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/31 "2018-03-22T14:11:39Z")

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Dont forget the silk of the kine (Ireland).

People say “dog” for all the bitches too normally.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/32 "2018-03-22T19:07:59Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> A beef. Or several beeves.

That’s the way my Aunt Ivy said it, and she was a farmer for all of 100 years.

“Imagine, not knowin’ a cockle from a whelk !” --Alan Jay Lerner

“Imagine, not knowin’ a lark from a larch !” --Oliver Faltz

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/33 "2018-03-23T02:00:46Z")

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In my experience the conversation would go something like this:

Cowboy 1: Is that one of ours?  
Cowboy 2: I can’t tell from here.  
Cowboy 1: Why’s it up there?  
Cowboy 2: I don’t know.  
Cowboy 1: Well, s\*\*\*, let’s go see.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-best-suited-to-a-rancher-or-cowboy/810948/34 "2018-03-23T03:37:55Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> A doggie is canis familiaris, which even the most nearsighted cowboy would be able to distinguish from bos taurus. A [dogie](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/dogie) is a motherless or neglected calf, which does not fit the OP.

Huh, ignorance fought.

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