# A question foer the opponents of interracial marriage **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 27, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789 "2009-05-27T14:10:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/1 "2009-05-27T14:10:46Z")
What, specifically, would be the negative consequences of allowing members of different races to marry? (Just curious as to what will happen). ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/2 "2009-05-27T14:13:39Z")
You aren’t actually expecting a response here…are you? (I would have to say that the consequences of allowing different ‘races to marry’ would be hybrid and possibly infertile offspring. Luckily for us humans there really aren’t any ‘races’, so it’s no problem) -XT ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/3 "2009-05-27T14:16:16Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > You aren’t actually expecting a response here…are you? > > (I would have to say that the consequences of allowing different ‘races to marry’ would be hybrid and possibly infertile offspring. Luckily for us humans there really aren’t any ‘races’, so it’s no problem) > > -XT I am just wondering if we would get four pages of acrimonious debate about some custom of the Ooga-Booga tribe in Africa.😃 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/4 "2009-05-27T15:12:21Z")
The Bible obviously intended marriage as an institution between a white, Christian male and a white, Christian female. Anything else is just twisted. It’s a slippery slope. How’s that? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/5 "2009-05-27T15:19:28Z")
As the trial judge in _Loving v. Virginia_ put it, > [@](#): > > Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix. To flout God’s clear will can bring only fearsome consequences for us. What those consequences might be is hard to say. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/6 "2009-05-27T15:25:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > To flout God’s clear will can bring only fearsome consequences for us. What those consequences might be is hard to say. Floods. It’s always floods. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/7 "2009-05-27T15:25:46Z")
Sometimes it’s frogs. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/8 "2009-05-27T15:26:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Sometimes it’s frogs. Or lupus. ---
**Author:** ![Reno\_Nevada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Reno\_Nevada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reno_Nevada)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/9 "2009-05-27T15:35:24Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > Or lupus. It’s _never lupus_. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/10 "2009-05-27T15:36:33Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > Floods. It’s always floods. It’s the gay’s fault. They hog all the hurricanes. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/11 "2009-05-27T15:36:50Z")
> [@Valteron](#): > > What, specifically, would be the negative consequences of allowing members of different races to marry? > > (Just curious as to what will happen). Nothing, we already allow interracial marriages, so it would be the same as it has been. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/12 "2009-05-27T15:38:27Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > As the trial judge in _Loving v. Virginia_ put it, > > To flout God’s clear will can bring only fearsome consequences for us. What those consequences might be is hard to say. The funny thing about that is that I think there is a very strong case that Christianity was intended to be a force for miscegenation. When you become a Christian you stop being of your tribe and start being a Christian. That’s what people mean by ‘Christian Universalism’. So miscegenation would actually fit perfectly within the Christian framework. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/13 "2009-05-27T15:40:34Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Nothing, we already allow interracial marriages, so it would be the same as it has been. Since 1967, anyway. Many of us are still alive who remember a time before then. But you did stop short of saying it’s “always” been that, or that it’s the “traditional definition” of marriage, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/14 "2009-05-27T15:40:53Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Nothing, we already allow interracial marriages, so it would be the same as it has been. But . . . but that means we are TOO LATE ! ! AMERICA IS DOOMED ! ! _DOOOOOOMED ! ! !_ And not in the way that involves a masked Latverian dictator, either ---
**Author:** ![Valteron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f17d59/32.png) [@Valteron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valteron)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/15 "2009-05-27T15:42:50Z")
Apparently, the different average tooth sizes and mouth sizes between blacks and whites have in some cases been known to cause problematic mixtures in the offspring leading to such things as more widely-spaced teeth or tightly-packed teeth, or overbite. Never mind that it is minor and infrequent. God is telling us something here!:eek: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/16 "2009-05-27T15:43:50Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > When you become a Christian you stop being of your tribe and start being a Christian. That’s what people mean by ‘Christian Universalism’. You are aware, I hope, of the wide range of belief systems using that name. It’s remarkable how often different “Christian” peoples have \*killed \*each other in the name of their own particular belief, isn’t it? How do you explain that? > [@](#): > > So miscegenation would actually fit perfectly within the Christian framework. If there were such a thing with any coherence or meaning, that is. There’s a whole lot of material in the Bible supporting actual slavery, you know. No way can the same book be interpreted as not condemning interracial marriage, right? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/17 "2009-05-27T15:44:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > As the trial judge in _Loving v. Virginia_ put it… > > …To flout God’s clear will can bring only fearsome consequences for us. What those consequences might be is hard to say. Every time I read that opinion I wonder if he then started ordering all the white folks to go back to Europe, and so on… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/18 "2009-05-27T15:45:41Z")
I believe our society would suffer enormous harm - maybe not right away, but within a few generations - say 40 years or so. I know that the usual suspects here will just foolishly ask me for “proof” or “evidence” or “substantiation” for the FACTS that I’ve posted, so I will now go away. Ha ha ha!! I win! ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/19 "2009-05-27T15:46:05Z")
Well it means Seal spoiled my chances with Heidi Klum. Other than that I got nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![Zephyurs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/dfb087/32.png) [@Zephyurs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zephyurs)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789/20 "2009-05-27T15:47:18Z")
Really, is there a need for interracial marriages? For one, the law doesn’t ban interracial marriages. It only bans marriage between whites and nonwhites. Nonwhites, regardless of race, can marry each other. To try to make this about racism is sheer disingenuous bluster. Not only that, but if for some reason a white person and a black person wanted to be married, it’s easy to draw up the relevant legal documents. There’s nothing banning that, and if they want something approximating marriage, then why not do that? Interracial marriage is basically a bunch of liberal New York Jewish media types trying to force all of us to accept their life choices. I have nothing personally against African-Americans and whites fornicating, but many people do have real, legitimate concerns about those types marrying. This is how it’s been for centuries, and to allow whites and nonwhites to marry is deeply unnatural and an attempt to undermine the moral basis for our society. You can’t expect a black person to be able to raise children well. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-foer-the-opponents-of-interracial-marriage/497789.md?page=2)