# A question for the 40% (Bush supporters: why absolutely NO dissension?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 25, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343 "2005-09-25T16:34:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/121 "2005-09-28T16:55:50Z")
> [@John Corrado](#): > > [Certainly not, this is a horror that has never befallen the House before, and certainly not while a Democrat was said Speaker.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wright) Wright resigned. Was he ever actually indicted? Rostenkowski? The fall of [Wilbur Mills](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Mills) was flashier. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/122 "2005-09-28T16:55:51Z")
**John Corrodo** : Thanks, little buddy! I’m not sure what question you were answering, but it doesn’t appear to have been mine. Your first example was not of an indictment, and your second was not of the House majority leader. But more to the point, there is a cancer on the Republican party. It appears I can cite any examples I want of all the stuff going on right now, but they will be quickly countered by this Democrat stepping down in the 1950’s or Dan Rostenkowski. The first step toward recovery is admitting that you have a problem. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/123 "2005-09-28T17:03:50Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > **John Corrodo** : Thanks, little buddy! I’m not sure what question you were answering, but it doesn’t appear to have been mine. Your first example was not of an indictment, and your second was not of the House majority leader. My fault- I misread “incident” as “indictment” in the Wikipedia article. A simple mistake, akin to mispelling the name of the person you’re replying to. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/124 "2005-09-28T19:54:39Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > But more to the point, there is a cancer on the Republican party. It appears I can cite any examples I want of all the stuff going on right now, but they will be quickly countered by this Democrat stepping down in the 1950’s or Dan Rostenkowski. I still think it’s more an issue of power corrupting rather than something fundamentally wrong with Republicans or the party in general. But even if we assume that the Republican party is X% more corrupt than the Democrats, what does that mean in terms of actions we as citizens would take? I vote for the person, not the party, and if it’s McCain vs HRC in '08, I’m almost certain to give my vote to McCain. If Bush were able to run again, he wouldn’t get my vote (as he didn’t last time). If Frist or DeLay is found guilty I hope they receive the appropriate punishment. If the Democrats controlled Congress, I wouldn’t be surprised if impeachment (of Bush) was in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/125 "2005-09-29T02:17:53Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > Still want to play this game? The game **I** want to play is are you a man of your word? Earlier you wrote: > [@](#): > > My mileage may vary? Friend Scylla, I would venture to say your mileage is unique, without peer, nonpareil. If you can find another poster, liberal or conservative, with unabashed cheek to concur in these statements without blushing, I will concede that it is I who is deluded on this point, not you. To date, we have had 3 people seriously concur with me. Now, will you admit that it is **you** who are deluded on this point, or, were you simply lying? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/126 "2005-09-29T02:27:21Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > The game **I** want to play is are you a man of your word? > > Earlier you wrote: > > To date, we have had 3 people seriously concur with me. > Now, will you admit that it is **you** who are deluded on this point, or, were you simply lying? I value the truth too highly to waste it on someone not worthy of it. Bite me Scylla. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/127 "2005-09-29T02:39:15Z")
> [@Fear Itself](#): > > I value the truth too highly to waste it on someone not worthy of it. Bite me Scylla. Lying **and** poor sportsmanship **and** name calling. I fear I must report you. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/128 "2005-09-29T02:40:57Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Lying **and** poor sportsmanship **and** name calling. I fear I must report you. I knew you would. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/129 "2005-09-29T03:25:29Z")
**Fear Itself** > [@](#): > > Bite me Scylla. [Moderator Hat ON] Allright, Fear Itself, take it to the Pit. You know better. [Moderator Hat OFF] ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/130 "2005-09-29T04:32:12Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Lying **and** poor sportsmanship **and** name calling. I fear I must report you. :rolleyes: So sorry that one of the mean liberals stung you again with the virtual baseball bat. I hope you feel better soon. But alas, entre nous, I have to say that **Fear Itself** is not the ultimate arbiter of delusion. And please don’t tell on me too - I’ll be your best friend. Promise. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/131 "2005-09-29T07:35:21Z")
**Moderator’s Note:** OK, **Hentor** , you knock it off too. And **Scylla** , it’s not really necessary and probably counterproductive to post that you’ve reported the person. Just report it; then your opponent gets the scolding while you look all noble and grown up about it. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/132 "2005-09-29T18:03:03Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > And **Scylla** , it’s not really necessary and probably counterproductive to post that you’ve reported the person. Just report it; then your opponent gets the scolding while you look all noble and grown up about it. Must… resist… _delivery!_😃 ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/133 "2005-09-30T01:22:08Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > **Scylla** , it’s not really necessary and probably counterproductive to post that you’ve reported the person. It’s important to my street cred that the Perp knows who busted him. Take him away and book him. 😉 > [@](#): > > Just report it; then your opponent gets the scolding while you look all noble and grown up about it. Well, yes. Quite. I understand, and I will comply from now on. This however was a special case. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343/134 "2005-09-30T02:34:42Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > It’s important to my street cred that the Perp knows who busted him. > > Take him away and book him. 😉 > > Well, yes. Quite. I understand, and I will comply from now on. This however was a special case. Everything is a special case with you, Scylla. And watch the name calling, I may have to report you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-the-40-bush-supporters-why-absolutely-no-dissension/323343.md?page=6)