# A question for Trump supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 24, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383 "2020-05-24T14:28:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/61 "2020-05-31T16:26:22Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> That said, well over half the country believe in a god, without a shred of evidence.

On the contrary, most would say they’ve a personal encounter with Him, and that’s all the evidence they need to believe the same thing most people have always believed. Why do you ignore their lived experience?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/62 "2020-05-31T17:42:15Z")

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Why should we pay attention to it? Why should we pretend someone is entitled to make themselves a public menace because they think they’re covered in Jesus Blood? Why should we force women to bear children against their will because someone who will not have any role in raising the child thinks abortion makes the creator of the universe’s son cry? Why should bigots be granted special privileges because they have an opinion about the private lives of strangers?

Would you think a politician is fit to govern if they were to espouse all the views of the religious right but attributed them to the teachings of the dust bunnies under their bed?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/63 "2020-05-31T18:54:05Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Why should we pay attention to it? Why should we pretend someone is entitled to make themselves a public menace because they think they’re covered in Jesus Blood? Why should we force women to bear children against their will because someone who will not have any role in raising the child thinks abortion makes the creator of the universe’s son cry? Why should bigots be granted special privileges because they have an opinion about the private lives of strangers?
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> Would you think a politician is fit to govern if they were to espouse all the views of the religious right but attributed them to the teachings of the dust bunnies under their bed?

And also, why should we let people get away with things people want to do because they say God says so.

“You know, I’d make that cake for you, but my God, well, he just really hates gay people and will send me to hell if I do. I hope you understand.”

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/64 "2020-05-31T18:56:27Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> On the contrary, most would say they’ve a personal encounter with Him, and that’s all the evidence they need to believe the same thing most people have always believed. Why do you ignore their lived experience?

If it is evidence they can share with me, it is evidence.

If it a personal encounter that they cannot demonstrate to me, then it is simply their opinion.

It’s fine if you want to believe based on your personal experiences. It is not fine if you wish to impose your religion and its rules on others.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/65 "2020-05-31T19:38:22Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> On the contrary, most would say they’ve a personal encounter with Him, and that’s all the evidence they need to believe the same thing most people have always believed. Why do you ignore their lived experience?

I believe that _they_ believe it. Just like most Trump supporters believe what _they_ want to believe. Neither belief system is based on demonstrable evidence.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/66 "2020-06-01T06:30:19Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Not “they will”, but the rainstorm is upon us right now. I’m not sure exactly what we just spent on coronovirus relief, nor what we will spend in the future, but you start with a trillion here and trillion there, soon you are talking about real money.  
> They like chocolate cake though. And he assures them that eating it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner is the healthiest diet possible. Since they like chocolate cake, they believe him.
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> **ETA: and that’s not actually chocolate cake that he is feeding them either.**

Are you suggesting he’s feeding them an excrement cake?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/67 "2020-06-01T08:19:25Z")

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> [@Mdcastle](#):
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> Trump supporter here. This exactly. Yes, he’s a flaming ass clown. But he’s better than Hillary at making conservative policy decisions and better at Hillary at talking tough about China.

That’s really the rationale there. No matter what Trump says or does, in the Trump supporter’s mind, it is self-evident that any Democrat candidate “would have been worse”.

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**Author:** ![Crisstti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Crisstti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crisstti)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/68 "2020-06-02T15:32:30Z")

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Great to see “trump supporters” speaking here. Guess some people just can’t help themselves.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/69 "2020-06-02T15:36:15Z")

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> [@Crisstti](#):
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> Great to see “trump supporters” speaking here. Guess some people just can’t help themselves.

Go right ahead. We’re here to listen to what you have to say.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-for-trump-supporters/854383/70 "2020-06-02T17:57:33Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> That’s really the rationale there. No matter what Trump says or does, in the Trump supporter’s mind, it is self-evident that any Democrat candidate “would have been worse”.

What’s even worse is the people I know who are “on the left” and not fans of him, but say that he is “No worse than Obama” and will go on to say that he is better than Hillary. We are having an intellectual failure and it has to do with social media and facebook.

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