# A question to those who think Oswald killed Kennedy.

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 22, 2010, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109 "2010-06-22T11:36:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/21 "2010-06-22T19:06:57Z")

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It just seems odd that he would do it from his place of work, leave the rifle, which was registered to him, and expect to have got away with it, but he didn’t even have a decent escape plan. Does anyone think he expected to go home early, and then come in the next day as though nothing had happened, had he not bumped into Officer Tippit?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/22 "2010-06-22T19:13:51Z")

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So the fact that Oswald is not a criminal mastermind, leaving rifle, no real escape plan, makes it so he couldn’t have fired the rifle?

A killer does not have to plan out the rest of his life to be a killer.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/23 "2010-06-22T19:16:50Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Years ago when I taught swimming lessons, I had a student who crapped in his bathing while practicing swimming motions on the apron of the pool. He denied that he was the perpetrator of the turds in his own swimsuit.

WTF? Did he claim that someone else reached into his suit and stuffed them in there?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/24 "2010-06-22T19:43:46Z")

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Honestly, you think we should let people go just because they say they didn’t do anything?

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/25 "2010-06-22T20:14:32Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Someone above described him as an “ego-maniac”. Can we decide one way or another?

It’s not one or the other. Oswald felt he was under-appreciated and wanted to make a big splash, but also didn’t want to die for it.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/26 "2010-06-22T20:43:42Z")

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Because Jack fucking Ruby.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/27 "2010-06-22T20:46:46Z")

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Woo-woo.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/28 "2010-06-22T21:05:39Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> I think I remember The Warren Commission saying it was the most determined case of suicide ever seen. My memory may be a little off.

So, you’re saying they said Kennedy shot himself? That is definitely determined and most impressive.

> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> Woo-woo.

Hey man, no need to get all hate-speechy on us. 😛

> **[Is this hate speech?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567685)**
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> From the registration agreement From the FAQ Can we please have a ruling on a particular word. I think it counts as hate speech. The word is \*woo-woo \*(or woowoo, or just simply woo) as used twice in the OP of this thread. It’s a pretty vile...

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/29 "2010-06-22T21:07:34Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> Woo-woo.

After all, it was you and me! Woo-woo!

Wait, I’ll come in again…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/30 "2010-06-22T21:13:04Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Can we link this thread with the Jimi Hendrix saga?

Hey, Lee.

Where you goin’ with that gun in your hand?

I’m goin’ to the schoolbook repository, gonna gun my ol’ president down

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/31 "2010-06-22T21:30:54Z")

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If you look at gun violence statistics, you’re far more likely to die at the hands of a loved one than a stranger. Because of this, I think we need to seriously consider the possibility that Jackie did it. I haven’t worked out all the kinks in my theory yet, but given that none of the other so-called theories (Oswald acting alone, multiple gunmen, magic bullets, etc.) cover all the bases, I think it’s time we think outside the box on this one.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/32 "2010-06-22T21:37:42Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> If you look at gun violence statistics, you’re far more likely to die at the hands of a loved one than a stranger. Because of this, I think we need to seriously consider the possibility that Jackie did it.

No, we have to consider the possibility that Kennedy and Oswald were lovers! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/33 "2010-06-22T21:59:05Z")

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Mr. Rogers was a sniper in Vietnam, and he killed Kennedy!

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/34 "2010-06-22T22:37:17Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> It just seems odd that he would do it from his place of work, leave the rifle, which was registered to him, and expect to have got away with it, but he didn’t even have a decent escape plan. Does anyone think he expected to go home early, and then come in the next day as though nothing had happened, had he not bumped into Officer Tippit?

Based on the admittedly small sample size of “criminal behavior I have personally witnessed” I feel quite comfortable in making the statement that criminals are, by and large, not the smartest people around. They don’t really think things through, they have lousy impulse control and they just do a lot of stupid stuff. They get caught red-handed and deny they did anything, probably because they don’t want to get punished.

I don’t think that there’s anything really confusing about this one.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/35 "2010-06-22T23:10:54Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> If you look at gun violence statistics, you’re far more likely to die at the hands of a loved one than a stranger. Because of this, I think we need to seriously consider the possibility that Jackie did it. I haven’t worked out all the kinks in my theory yet, but given that none of the other so-called theories (Oswald acting alone, multiple gunmen, magic bullets, etc.) cover all the bases, I think it’s time we think outside the box on this one.

::wistfully wishes for a box, here:::

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/36 "2010-06-22T23:26:26Z")

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> [@Tahssa](#):
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> So, you’re saying they said Kennedy shot himself? That is definitely determined and most impressive.
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> Hey man, no need to get all hate-speechy on us. 😛
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> [Is this hate speech? - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567685)

The magic bullet.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/37 "2010-06-22T23:34:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Mr. Rogers was a sniper in Vietnam, and he killed Kennedy!

And you have to be one Hell of a sniper, to hit a target in Dallas all the way from Vietnam.

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**Author:** ![Tully\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Tully\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tully_Mars)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/38 "2010-06-22T23:38:39Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> If you look at gun violence statistics, you’re far more likely to die at the hands of a loved one than a stranger. Because of this, I think we need to seriously consider the possibility that Jackie did it. I haven’t worked out all the kinks in my theory yet, but given that none of the other so-called theories (Oswald acting alone, multiple gunmen, magic bullets, etc.) cover all the bases, I think it’s time we think outside the box on this one.

You know, that actually makes sense. I’ve seen “Body Heat”. It could have played out just like that. It makes sense. That’s why Oswald said he was a patsy. He was played by Jackie. That’s why he was in no big hurry to leave Dallas. He was waiting for Jackie to come back around and pick him up and head for Acapulco. It all makes sense now!

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**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/39 "2010-06-22T23:42:00Z")

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> [@Valgard](#):
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> Based on the admittedly small sample size of “criminal behavior I have personally witnessed” I feel quite comfortable in making the statement that criminals are, by and large, not the smartest people around. They don’t really think things through, they have lousy impulse control and they just do a lot of stupid stuff. They get caught red-handed and deny they did anything, probably because they don’t want to get punished.
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> I don’t think that there’s anything really confusing about this one.

I used to do background checks on guys with criminal records. The people I checked on had uniformly done jaw-droppingly stupid things. You would never believe that a sapient human being could be so dumb. So AFAICT, criminals are mostly about as clever as a box of hair.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-question-to-those-who-think-oswald-killed-kennedy/544109/40 "2010-06-22T23:48:14Z")

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> [@Tully\_Mars](#):
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> You know, that actually makes sense. I’ve seen “Body Heat”. It could have played out just like that. It makes sense. That’s why Oswald said he was a patsy. He was played by Jackie. That’s why he was in no big hurry to leave Dallas. He was waiting for Jackie to come back around and pick him up and head for Acapulco. It all makes sense now!

That’s ridiculous. It’s been [shown conclusively](http://www.sff.net/people/rothman/jfk.htp) who the only possible killer was.

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