# A quick puzzle **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 23, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489 "2019-07-23T02:25:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/1 "2019-07-23T02:25:39Z")
I got the following puzzle message in an adventure game. It’s supposed to indicate the location of the next clue. The adventure takes place on a habitable moon, but I doubt that is relevant. ibrarylay 3.14 \ That is, there is actually a picture not those words. I know 3.14 does not mean pi When I was told 3.14 was not pi, I was not told ibrarylay wasn’t pig latin, so I assume it is. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/2 "2019-07-23T02:33:30Z")
Is there a pig pit? Pig(latin) + pi+t I’m ignoring the “3.14 doesn’t equal pi” because I can’t wrap my head around that. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/3 "2019-07-23T02:34:48Z")
Sorry miscommunication 3.14 definitely does mean pi. There was a missing ‘not’ in communication ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/4 "2019-07-23T03:18:05Z")
What’s the game? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/5 "2019-07-23T15:30:01Z")
And what were some previous clues like, to give us an idea of the sort of puzzle that the puzzle-maker likes? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/6 "2019-07-23T16:32:14Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > Sorry miscommunication 3.14 definitely does mean pi. There was a missing ‘not’ in communication Actually I think too many “nots”. You’re being notty. 😉 I wonder if a word being Pig Latin implies using actual Latin language somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/7 "2019-07-23T17:12:51Z")
When you say “crude picture of a T shirt” do you mean it was drawn badly, or the T shirt is crude (holes, pit stains, etc)? Where did you find this clue? A room, hallway, parking lot, volcano? Is the only way out solving this clue? Do you type in words, pick an object, what? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/8 "2019-07-23T17:58:52Z")
Are you saying that the text is on the t-shirt, or is it adjacent to it? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/9 "2019-07-23T18:19:51Z")
Are there any named craters on the moon? Perhaps pig latin “library” relates to a name, with pi+t indicating crater. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/10 "2019-07-23T18:59:24Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > … > I know 3.14 does _ **not** _ mean pi > When I was told 3.14 was _ **not** _ pi, I was _ **not** _ told ibrarylay _ **wasn’t** _ pig latin, so I assume it _ **is** _. (emphasis added) > [@OldGuy](#): > > Sorry miscommunication 3.14 definitely does mean pi. There was a missing ‘not’ in communication Miscommunication indeed. My head hurts. Can you start from scratch and explain about what you were told about 3.14 being, or not being, pi? NOTES: a) Your first post makes all kinds of sense by itself: Your stated reason for believing that yes indeedy librarylay is pig latin is that you were informed that 3.14 is NOT pi but were not, in a similar manner, informed that ibrarylay isn’t pig latin. In other words, your informant would have told you so the same way you were told that, contrary to appearances, 3.14 doesn’t mean pi. b) Your first post does NOT make sense any more if, as your following post indicates, you meant to say 3.14 _DOES TOO_ mean pi. For what it’s worth, 3.14 really and truly isn’t pi. PI is a smidgen larger than 3.14 – so perhaps 3.14 is “most of pi” or “nearly pi” or “approxmination of pi” or some such thing? ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/11 "2019-07-23T19:21:37Z")
Library lady? Missing L and D. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/12 "2019-07-23T19:31:21Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Are there any named craters on the moon? Perhaps pig latin “library” relates to a name, with pi+t indicating crater. I think there might be something to the idea of 3.14 + T (rebus of t-shirt) = pit. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/13 "2019-07-23T20:46:36Z")
I apologize for this. The other poster was a gamer and giving game like clues that I had to travel around to discover. But there were no pictures I could see so only later in the verbal descriptions did I learn that there was a bakery (pi/pie) between a library and a clothing store. All previous clues were things that could be figured out from the original post. They did not require me saying things like my character goes to the library and looks around. It was really impossible for for any of you to answer. But thanks for the interest and help. The confusion I mention was my stating that 3.14 mean only two things to me pi and the oft-quoted verse from John (which I knew could not be it). I was told I was thinking about 3.14 completely wrong which I took to mean it was not pi. But of course it was which you then had to use the play on words. But you can’t get there without first 3.14 =\> pi. Sorry again. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/14 "2019-07-23T20:49:26Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Are there any named craters on the moon? Perhaps pig latin “library” relates to a name, with pi+t indicating crater. I thought about that too, and checked if there was some “Libra Crater” or whatever. But the closest I could find is “libration” which is the apparent oscillation or “wiggle” of the moon within its orbit. Though the moon is tidally locked and always shows the same side to the Earth, it’s not perfect and shifts a bit. Interesting but I’m sure irrelevant. There’s no depiction of the Libra constellation by chance, is there? Or a star chart of some kind? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/15 "2019-07-23T21:05:50Z")
Bible verses are generally expressed with a colon, not a period, and the oft-quoted one is John 3:16, not 3:14 . ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/16 "2019-07-24T23:17:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Bible verses are generally expressed with a colon, not a period, and the oft-quoted one is John 3:16, not 3:14 . Hey! This is message board thirdhand mumbletrivia. Close enough. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-quick-puzzle/837489/17 "2019-07-24T23:34:41Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Bible verses are generally expressed with a colon, not a period, and the oft-quoted one is John 3:16, not 3:14 . I just said I thought it couldn’t be John 3:14. I didn’t say I knew the Bible :-).