# A racially divided Survivor? Are they fucking smoking crack? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968 "2006-08-24T00:12:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/81 "2006-08-25T02:53:49Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Ooook… so, uh, what color will the Hispanics be? Before I open my mouth or show my passport, US Customs agents in Miami take me for cuban; in Texas, for American. Reentering the US from Mexico in Austin, I had to refuse to move along until the Customs agent stamped my passport, he didn’t want to on grounds of me being American (that would have been nice, double nationality, but I’m afraid nationality is not based on how you look to a Customs agent). I know Hispanic black, Hispanic coffee-with-milk, Hispanic caramel (some black blood someplace, but go and look for it), Hispanic red, Hispanic polka-dot (one parent “indian”, one white), Hispanic yellow (both parents Vietnamese; both parents Chinese)… gee, guess we should come up with a nick for “yellow with white”, how about “Hispanic vanilla”? Vanilla is good, second most popular ice-cream flavor in Spain! (Lemon is the first) > Oh, and let’s not forget Hispanic gypsies, who range from caramel to white and back. Hmm…that give me an idea for next year. Hispanics could be the x-factor. During critical parts of Survivor, the contestants can reveal their “double allegiance”. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/82 "2006-08-25T03:06:43Z")
> [@I Love Me](#): > > FUCKING BRILLIANT! > > And all you folks crying “raciscm!” right now are just doing CBS’s promotion work for them! You are creating the buzz that will lead more viewers to the trough. Or as Randy Milholland wrote in the best [Something Postive](http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp08312004.shtml) ever: > [@](#): > > SHUT THE FUCK UP! God you’re all acting like idiots… I’m glad you hate Shock Treatment and I’m happy you’re protesting this show, because seeing a bunch of freaks in lingere protesting a show they deem offensive will make the rest of the city curious. And curious people BUY TICKETS! ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/83 "2006-08-25T12:58:55Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > What if Survivor did a Nerd season: > > Trekkies, SCA’s, LoTr’s and ComicBookFans. > The conversation would be interesting, but all that pasty white skin in a tropical setting would blind. I could be in three teams at once! Yay me! ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/84 "2006-08-25T13:14:51Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Hmm…that give me an idea for next year. > > Hispanics could be the x-factor. During critical parts of Survivor, the contestants can reveal their “double allegiance”. Uh … isn’t it usually Jews who are accused of double allegiance? Or am I behind the times? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/85 "2006-08-25T16:04:45Z")
> [@Loopydude](#): > > Hmmm. You could put Catholics and Protestants on an island and let them compete… > > Survivor: Ireland! We have a winner! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/86 "2006-08-26T15:38:43Z")
> [@don't ask](#): > > The show will never begin. The producers will attempt to divide the players in to “racial” groups but after months of trying to split them up they will discover that race “is just a social construct” and we can’t with any accuracy ascribe a “race” to any individual because there are greater differences between members of the same “racial” group than there are between people from different racial groups etc Now _that_ would be funny. I await this edition of Survivor with my usual level of excitement and anticipation, i.e., exactly zero. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/87 "2006-08-26T17:32:19Z")
> [@you with the face](#): > > Aaaargh! **monstro** didn’t write the above. T’was me. You’ve stated this exact thing before (different thread), I believe w.r.t. **monstro**. I’m confused. Are you saying you agree with **monstro** or you really are **monstro**? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/88 "2006-08-26T17:54:35Z")
> [@don't ask](#): > > The show will never begin. The producers will attempt to divide the players in to “racial” groups but after months of trying to split them up they will discover that race “is just a social construct” and we can’t with any accuracy ascribe a “race” to any individual because there are greater differences between members of the same “racial” group than there are between people from different racial groups etc Nonsense. They’ll probably have 10,000 applicants, they’ll end of selecting by skin tom=ne and what their last name _sounds like_, and they’ll CALL it race. Just like most people. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/89 "2006-08-26T17:56:25Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > You’ve stated this exact thing before (different thread), I believe w.r.t. **monstro**. I’m confused. Are you saying you agree with **monstro** or you really are **monstro**? **monstro** and **you with the face** are sisters (twins, I believe). I think that ywtf was indicating that they were posting from the same computer and that she forgot to switch the logins. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/90 "2006-08-26T18:03:06Z")
If they want to gererate a REAL buzz, the producers should have tribes of Christians, Jews, Muslims and Hindus. The competitions would be: cross burning, money lending, car bombing, and eating burgers. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/91 "2006-08-26T20:30:02Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > You’ve stated this exact thing before (different thread), I believe w.r.t. **monstro**. I’m confused. Are you saying you agree with **monstro** or you really are **monstro**? I just came back from Miami, visiting my twin sister. She’d logged on to the Dope thru my laptop and I realized that she forgot to log off when I made that post. These things happen. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/92 "2006-08-27T01:27:54Z")
> [@you with the face](#): > > I just came back from Miami, visiting my twin sister. She’d logged on to the Dope thru my laptop and I realized that she forgot to log off when I made that post. > > These things happen. Why you gotta put the blame all on me? ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/93 "2006-08-27T01:39:39Z")
> [@don't ask](#): > > The show will never begin. The producers will attempt to divide the players in to “racial” groups but after months of trying to split them up they will discover that race “is just a social construct” and we can’t with any accuracy ascribe a “race” to any individual because there are greater differences between members of the same “racial” group than there are between people from different racial groups etc Are you a fan of Joseph L. Graves, Jr? He wrote a fascinating book on the subject. > **[The Emperor's New Clothes: Biological Theories of Race at the Millennium: Graves...](https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-New-Clothes-Biological-Millennium/dp/081352847X)** > > Buy The Emperor's New Clothes: Biological Theories of Race at the Millennium on Amazon.com ✓ FREE SHIPPING on qualified orders ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/94 "2006-08-27T03:37:57Z")
> [@you with the face](#): > > I just came back from Miami, visiting my twin sister. She’d logged on to the Dope thru my laptop and I realized that she forgot to log off when I made that post. > > These things happen. Identical? and did you both arrive at SDMB independently? That would be kind of cool. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/95 "2006-08-27T04:36:06Z")
A friend at work told me today that his cousin, Sekou Bunch, was one of the players on this series of Survivor. I’m debating whether or not I should pump him for inside information. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/96 "2006-08-27T14:35:38Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Identical? and did you both arrive at SDMB independently? That would be kind of cool. Fraternal. **monstro** discovered the place first and then told me about it. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/97 "2006-08-27T20:03:29Z")
> [@Velma](#): > > How about Survivor : children. We could watch Lord of the Flies unfold in front of our very eyes! Considering that, back in the day, it was very common for networks to produce kids’ versions of popular game shows (e.g. Storybook Squares), this may not be too far-fetched. As far as the OP goes, I personally have no problem with this season’s premise at all. As has been mentioned already, the original divisions will probably only last 1 or 2 episodes, like the older/younger men/women in Panama. By the 2nd episode, the tribes were re-shuffled. It’s a ratings ploy, pure and simple, and the bigger stink people raise about it, the higher the ratings will be. And, for the uninitiated who think CBS will change their minds, the show is already completed. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/98 "2006-08-27T20:34:55Z")
I really hope they had the sense to sneak in a bunch of gays who can double-cross everybody along culture, race, age & gender lines. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/99 "2006-08-28T22:58:01Z")
> [@you with the face](#): > > Fraternal. **monstro** discovered the place first and then told me about it. I really did not need to know this. My intelligent-twin-sister fantasy is working overtime. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968/100 "2006-08-29T04:39:59Z")
These cries of segregation ring false when said segregation is entirely voluntary. It’s difficult to oppress people who signed up for it, you know? As for the idea that the producers will give up when they realize that race is an artificial construct, come on. Most people self-identify with a race (or multiple races). That gives you a pretty good starting point, don’t you think? oh, and **you with the face**? This seems like a good place to mention just how much I’ve always loved your user name. It never fails to bring me a smile. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-racially-divided-survivor-are-they-fucking-smoking-crack/369968.md?page=6)