# A Really Pathetic Attempt to See Me Naked
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [September 13, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389 "2008-09-13T02:58:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@Capcha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capcha)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/41 "2008-09-16T01:55:23Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Dunno - I just think this roundabout-guilt-manipulation thing is creepier than if he’d just banged on an on about really wanting to see you naked - it just seems a bit calculated.
I agree with you. To add: i’ve heard/ read/watched (news) women/girls/boys ’ stories of how they ended up manipulated to end up on a webcam, selling themselves for sex, drugs, while the original Creep is actually part of a network of creeps that act like pimps.
I do believe that they get that initial participation way too often, since people tend to have a false sense of security, this being on the net and all.
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### Author:  [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/42 "2008-09-16T02:48:15Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Quote:
> Originally Posted by dba Fred
> Then again, considering your respect and stature on this board, I would, Green Bean, be honored and humbled by a positive endorsement from you…
> Respect and stature? Moi? I doubt it. And I just blew any respect I may have had by posting a thread that could easily be construed as just a pathetic attempt at getting people to think about me naked.
But I still respect ya Babe, really I do. Here, have another glass of wine (or is it Courvoisier as mentioned above?). Have I told you those clothes get in the way of letting your natural beauty shine through? Let me get my camera … :rolleyes:
Disclaimer: I have no wine nor a camera but I will bring my tracing kit and flavored fingerpaints. Hey, I may well be a perv! 😃
And was the “pathetic attempt at getting people to think about you naked” actually pathetic if it worked? Hmm, who’s **really** the manipulative one here??? 😕
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/43 "2008-09-16T04:20:47Z")
> [@featherlou](#):
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> (Not especially safe for work picture in link - no weenies, just a tasteful nude.)
I am not sure that “tasteful nude” can be used of Ron Jeremy without choking on one’s laughter (or one’s returning breakfast). 😛
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### Author:  [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/44 "2008-09-16T07:59:43Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> It’s clear from prior conversation, when viewed in retrospect, that this was his game all along. And as I said, subsequent conversation only confirmed that he was trying to talk me into stuff that I had clearly said that I wasn’t willing to do.
Dude, was this guy a photographer/painter, studied in France, currently living in Chicago?
If not, he has a twin over here. My (very brief) interaction with him was similarly _ahem_ interesting. He was seriously a poster child for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
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### Author:  [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/45 "2008-09-16T09:41:13Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Respect and stature? Moi? I doubt it. And I just blew any respect I may have had by posting a thread that could easily be construed as just a pathetic attempt at getting people to think about me naked. 😛
Dear Green Bean:
I am not thinking of you naked.
Boobs,
Gingy
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### Author:  [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/46 "2008-09-16T09:55:58Z")
> [@Influential\_Panda](#):
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> Whoah dang, lookit that post above me. Man, what a perv. 😛
> [@featherlou](#):
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> **dba Fred** , I think I like you. You big ol’ perv. 😃
Woohoo, so far 2 votes for being a perv, plus 1 from **Santo Rugger** in another thread! 😃
Is there somewhere to apply for a membership card and a tee shirt? And a pennant, I want a pennant to fly from my car radio annenna.
Is it encouraging that **Green Bean** has looked at my profile page? _ **Fellow Boarders** _, any tips on how to entice **Green Bean** in a non-creepy and non-manipulative way? Maybe post a non-Ron Jeremyish picture in the NSFW thread?
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### Author:  [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/47 "2008-09-16T10:03:26Z")
> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#):
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> Dear Green Bean:
> I am not thinking of you naked.
> Boobs,
> Gingy
Could I gain further perviness cred by thinking of a naked **GingerOfTheNorth** _not_ thinking of **Green Bean** naked? 😕 Or would that just be creepy? ☹
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### Author:  [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/48 "2008-09-16T13:01:53Z")
> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> Does “how **you** doin?'” count as articulate? The Teeming Millions (and I) want to know. 🙂
Rather than "articulate’ I would classify it as “ejaculate”.
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### Author:  [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/49 "2008-09-16T13:13:50Z")
> [@Antinor01](#):
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> "Send me naked pictures and then sleep with me the first time we meet. I’m not saying this because I’m a creep…I’m saying it because I think you’re special!
Well, I agree with you that it is better to know each other well before we have sex but we’ve already chatted online twice which I think has allowed us to know each other well enough.
> [@](#):
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> And because I really want to get to know you, you should bring a friend. Nothing says ‘lets get to know each other on a deeper level’ like a nice threesome."
What’s wrong with that? I believe nothing is more telling about a person than their friends. You can have sex with my friends too if you like.
> [@](#):
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> Guys are wierd.
I told you we have a lot in common. I also make typos when I’m typing with one hand.
So how 'bout those photos? 😉
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### Author:  [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/50 "2008-09-16T13:56:57Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> This was just too ridiculous not to share.
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> So I was IM’ing with this guy who had contacted me on an…er…“social networking” site.
What “social networking” site are we taking about?
While I agree the guy seems like a jerk, if this is a bona fide dating site like match, he’s a total tool. If it’s a hook up site like craigs list, or AFF, he’s mush less a tool. And no insult intended, just asking. I think context is important.
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/51 "2008-09-16T17:40:27Z")
> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I am not sure that “tasteful nude” can be used of Ron Jeremy without choking on one’s laughter (or one’s returning breakfast). 😛
😃
I’m not thinking about ANYONE in this thread naked!
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/52 "2008-09-17T02:12:50Z")
> [@spifflog](#):
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> What “social networking” site are we taking about?
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> While I agree the guy seems like a jerk, if this is a bona fide dating site like match, he’s a total tool. If it’s a hook up site like craigs list, or AFF, he’s mush less a tool. And no insult intended, just asking. I think context is important.
It’s something more along the lines of the latter.
Which means that asking for a nude shot wouldn’t necessarily be out of line. But trying to manipulate me into giving one up is. He’s a tool.
p.s. I’m not thinking of you naked, **Gingy** , but I do have a fond memory of a boob-smushing hug. United redheads! Woo hoo!
p.p.s. I’m starting to think **dba Fred** has a crush on me.
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/53 "2008-09-17T02:14:58Z")
> [@Kaio](#):
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> Dude, was this guy a photographer/painter, studied in France, currently living in Chicago?
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> If not, he has a twin over here. My (very brief) interaction with him was similarly _ahem_ interesting. He was seriously a poster child for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Nope. This guy was a luthier, studied in Italy, currently living outside Philly.
I think I see a pattern…
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### Author:  [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/54 "2008-09-17T02:42:39Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> p.s. I’m not thinking of you naked, **Gingy** , but I do have a fond memory of a boob-smushing hug. United redheads! Woo hoo!
The last woman who bent my heart was a redhead. Plus thinking of two redheads hugging makes my head explode :eek:
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> p.p.s. I’m starting to think **dba Fred** has a crush on me.
Give me a sign, would that be a good thing? 😕
Plus, unlike the guys you and **Kaio** are speaking of, I’m in the sunny Southwest, not the narcissistic Northeast.
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/55 "2008-09-17T02:51:09Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Respect and stature? Moi? I doubt it. And I just blew any respect I may have had by posting a thread that could easily be construed as just a pathetic attempt at getting people to think about me naked. 😛
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I was already thinking about you naked.
Unfortunately, I have a mental image of a string bean waving a bra around its head with its little green arms.
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### Author:  [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/56 "2008-09-17T02:58:17Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Nope. This guy was a luthier, studied in Italy, currently living outside Philly.
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> I think I see a pattern…
Definitely twins. 😃
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/57 "2008-09-17T03:02:19Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, if it makes you feel any better, I was already thinking about you naked.
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> Unfortunately, I have a mental image of a string bean waving a bra around its head with its little green arms.
Well, I ain’t no string bean, I can tell you that much! It never occurred to me that anybody would see my username and think Green Bean = string bean = skinny. (Especially since my handle has nothing to do with the legume of the same name.) I discovered this misconception at the first mega-NY dopefest when more than a couple of people said “oh, I thought you’d be really skinny!” Oops. I’m actually shaped more like a wasabi pea.
> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> The last woman who bent my heart was a redhead. Plus thinking of two redheads hugging makes my head explode :eek:
Two _busty natural_ redheads.
> [@](#):
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> Give me a sign, would that be a good thing? 😕
>
> Plus, unlike the guys you and **Kaio** are speaking of, I’m in the sunny Southwest, not the narcissistic Northeast.
What would I do with a guy in the sunny Southwest? It’s really a bit far for a booty call.
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### Author:  [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/58 "2008-09-17T03:11:53Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Two _busty natural_ redheads.
You thought I was busty then - I’ve lost a lot of weight, but my boobs didn’t shrink.
:eek:
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### Author:  [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/59 "2008-09-17T11:59:28Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Well, I ain’t no string bean, I can tell you that much! … I’m actually shaped more like a wasabi pea.
Wasabi peas, the kind in Japanese rice cracker party mix? Nummers. A busty natural redhead wasabi pea? Oshii desu!
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> What would I do with a guy in the sunny Southwest?
Didn’t you presume you’d do with what you wanted to with a guy in the sunny Southwest? I did, I thought it went without saying, so I didn’t say it. Especially one with limited perviness who takes orders well.
> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> It’s really a bit far for a booty call.
Ahh, what could have been … but once again, I also never get the girl in the end. Back to being the guy who stands in the dimly-lit corner by the door smoking cigarettes or partly obscured by the steam rising in the alleyway. (Turns and waves goodbye.)
(cue up Gilbert O’Sullivan [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCZGqcMZ6Jw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCZGqcMZ6Jw) )
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-really-pathetic-attempt-to-see-me-naked/463389/60 "2008-09-19T04:07:12Z")
**GAAAHHHH!!!** I got another one!!!
Granted, this was nowhere near the level of the other one, but hey, as long as we’re on the subject…
I was just on IM with this guy. He was interested in meeting. I was thinking that I might be amenable to that. He agreed to the “no expectations on the first date” thing. And he didn’t ask me for a nudie picture.
He started talking about specific dates. I told him that I don’t meet people without talking to them on the telephone first. This is what ensued:
(please overlook the political nature of some of the comments. It had already been established that we are of similar political alignments.)
_Me: I don’t even consider meeting someone until I speak to them on the telephone.
ManipulativeMan: If I must.
ManipulativeMan: i’ve never liked the telephone
ManipulativeMan: had no social life before the internet
Me: Neither do I. But as I said, I don’t meet people until I speak to them on the telephone.
ManipulativeMan: ok
Me: So it’s up to you. I’m exhausted, so let me know what you want to do.
ManipulativeMan: when I get to the arranged meeting place and we see each other i will call you
Me: Hardee har har.
ManipulativeMan: ok, guess I’ll let you go, its fun talking to you, even if you have strict rules about meeting
Me: And now you’re expecting me to protest that my rules are not strict, and that they’re not really rules anyway.
ManipulativeMan: i have no expectations whatsoever
Me: And by putting me in the defensive position, you’re hoping that I will be eager to “bend the rules” so as to prove that I’m not an inflexible bitch.
ManipulativeMan: sorry, I am not that conniving nor manipulative
ManipulativeMan: i was just expressing what I was thinking
Me: They truly are not strict rules. But in my experience, meeting someone without talking on the telepone is a bad idea.
Me: I drastically reduced my incidence of less-than-stellar meets by making sure I did this.
ManipulativeMan: that makes sense
ManipulativeMan: i’m a good meet, tho
Me: Besides, if you hate the phone so much, how do you keep in touch with women you are seeing?
ManipulativeMan: various ways including the phone
ManipulativeMan: I think I am much more comfortable talking on the phone to someone I already know
ManipulativeMan: as opposed to someone I have never met
Me: Oh well. That’s too bad then.
ManipulativeMan: ha ha, but your rules are not strict
Me: ??
ManipulativeMan: arent you invoking a ‘strict rule’ when you say that… the strict rule you allegedly dont have
Me: Well, given the veritable forest of red flags you’ve thrown up, vetting you in additional ways only makes sense.
ManipulativeMan: i guess you look at meeting as a serious step ? instead of just one of the first steps in the ‘vetting’ process?
Me: And the fact that you’re trying to persuade me to do something other than what I said I was going to do shows me that you don’t respect my preferences.
ManipulativeMan: no, I am not trying to get youto do something different…I only said I was uncomfortable talking to strangers on thephone and you tolld me to take a hike
Me: So, you’re not comfortable talking to strangers. I’m not comfortable speaking about the campaign in front of 80 people.
ManipulativeMan: i didnt say I wouldnt do it
ManipulativeMan: or that I wanted you to change your mind
Me: We do what’s important to us.
Me: And your repeated “strict rules” comments are as much of a straw man as the whole “executive experience” bullshit.
ManipulativeMan: ok, we are going nowhere fast, i guess we should call it a night
Me: Yup. Good luck and take care. Goodbye._
Yeesh, I was a little harsh on him! :eek: What can I say? Manipulative tactics really get my dander up these days.
ETA: **dba Fred** : So how _you_ doin’?
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