# A reliever who blows a save should not get the win! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 12, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reliever-who-blows-a-save-should-not-get-the-win/303568 "2005-05-12T15:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reliever-who-blows-a-save-should-not-get-the-win/303568/61 "2005-05-17T02:42:46Z")
It’s not only possible, it’s undisputed. He’s a terrible 1B man, but he’s a worse catcher, except he’s more awful at 1B, only he’s even worse at catcher, but… ---
**Author:** ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reliever-who-blows-a-save-should-not-get-the-win/303568/62 "2005-05-17T13:10:41Z")
> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#): > > If nobody covers second, or if the pitcher doesn’t look at the runner and he gets a ten-step running lead, even if the run theoretically _should_ matter, it’s got to be defensive indifference because they didn’t actually _do_ anything to stop the runner. Right? Or if the first baseman isn’t at the bag, holding the runner. That’s the issue that makes defensive indifference most clear IMHO. Most runners of average speed can steal second easily if they can get the type of lead that would be allowed by not being held at first. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reliever-who-blows-a-save-should-not-get-the-win/303568/63 "2005-05-17T14:06:33Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Im’ still realtively new to baseball, and i don’t watch the NL all that much. I’ve always been under the impression that Piazza was a great catcher, but maybe that’s just because he’s so we known as a hitter too. > > Is he a poor catcher in general? Or is it just his throwing ability that sucks? He’s poor in general. His throwing has always been bad - it’s much worse now than it used to be but he was never even average - but he’s also a mediocre catcher in most other areas. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reliever-who-blows-a-save-should-not-get-the-win/303568.md?page=3)