# A Reminder That Muslim Facebook Is Still A Thing **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317 "2015-01-19T22:06:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/1 "2015-01-19T22:06:58Z")
> [@](#): > > ``` > Assalam o Alikum Jonah Anon, > > ``` > > Mark Zuckerbergs Agenda of “clash of civilizations” > > Below is an excerpt from an Express Tribune report on the now infamous hate-mongering by the Islamophobic Facebook CEO Mr. Mark Zukerberg: > > "In his Facebook post, he said, “A few years ago, an extremist in Pakistan fought to have me sentenced to death because Facebook refused to ban content about Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) that offended him.” > > “As I reflect on yesterday’s attack and my own experience with extremism, this is what we all need to reject — a group of extremists trying to silence the voices and opinions of everyone else around the world,” Zuckerberg wrote. > > “I won’t let that happen on Facebook. I’m committed to building a service where you can speak freely without fear of violence,” he assured. > > His response was: “It’s not against our policies to talk about Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). We did block the content in Pakistan where it was illegal, but we didn’t block it in the rest of the world where it is legal.” > > Instead of very lengthy writeup exposing the hypocrisy of Mr. Zukerberg in detail, I’d just a raise a few questions to put the entire matter in perspective: > > a) Clause 3.7 of Facebook’s terms of service states > > “You will not post content that: is hate speech, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.” > > ([Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms) > ) > > Why is it that the content even questioning Holocaust is removed & strictly penalized but DESPITE requests and protests by over 1.6 Billion Muslims, ridiculing of Prophet Muhammad PBUH (the most revered personality on the planet) is allowed which incites violence & promotes hate speech in VIOLATION of YOUR OWN TERMS of SERVICE? > > b) While propagating Voltaire’s support for “freedom of expression” who said, “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it” why do you choose to ignore Zechariah Chafee who said, “Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man’s nose begins”, that too ONLY in case of ISLAM? > > c) By removing abusive content against Holocaust, e.t.c. but openly stating your support for ridicule of Prophet Muhammad PBUH & Islam are you promoting ‘Freedom of Expression’ or ‘Freedom for Some Expressions’? > > [spoiler] > > d) Is it not true that the “CENSORSHIP” on Facebook has risen by 19% plus over the last year as per various NGO reports? > > e) Is any person going to a court of law to challenge something they believe is illegal an extremist, just because they disagree with you? > > f) Charlie Hebdo attack happened in France, then why did you choose to attack Pakistan at this time? > > g) Why did you stay silent when children were massacred in Palestine by Israel and when 140 angels lost their lives in Peshawar? > > h) Will you also classify Bill Donohue, President of the US Catholic League as an extremist and/or terrorist for issuing a statement in the light of the continuous provocations of Muslims that “Muslims are right to be angry.” > > i) Is it not true that Facebook is a spy tool which transfers all the private data of its users to CIA & NSA WITHOUT the users even knowing? > > j) Why is it that a cartoon of Condolezza Rice is termed as Racism, a cartoon of Mark Zukerberg is called anti-Semitic but ridiculing of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) (Nauzbillah) is termed as freedom of expression. What is it, if not hypocrisy of the highest order? > > If you ponder over the above questions and the fact that even heads of states like the Queen are not allowed to be ridiculed but despicable competitions to ridicule the most revered person on the globe, Prophet Muhammad PBUH are held and supported, you can clearly see that ordinary peace-loving people are provoked and incited for vested interests. > > I’ll leave it for you to decide whether such tactics are being used to further an agenda of “clash of civilizations” by provoking and inciting violence and as a result malign an already marginalized Muslim community?. > > For all the above reasons, I urge not just all Muslims but peace-loving decent people of all religions to boycott Facebook and start using alternate platforms like [MyMFB.com](http://MyMFB.com) > > I’ll end by stating that while Individuals should not resort to violence we must also condemn the senseless hypocrisy to provoke and incite violence. It is high time that all the nations sit together to resolve the issues arising out of the cultural and religious dis-similarities and fault lines. Let the peace prevail & DEFEAT hypocrite hate-mongers like Mr. Zukerberg hiding amongst us. > > I also demand that in line with Facebook’s own TERMS of service and respecting the emotions of over 1.6 Billion Muslims, mark zukerberg should remove the hate-mongering & violence inciting content ridiculing Prophet Muhammad PBUH. > > Your Own MFB [www.mymfb.com](http://www.mymfb.com) > will continue this mission in a peaceful way by causing immense business loss to facebook. > > Kind Regards & ALLAH Hafiz, > > [myMFB.com](http://myMFB.com) > Love for All - Hatred for None > Muslim’s Pioneer & Largest Social Network [/spoiler] I’ll spare you the rest of that nonsense. …So yeah. That email was a thing. I could go over point for point how it’s wrong (I have friends there questioning the holocaust), but I think the more important point is that they somehow think that ridiculing mohammed is violence against them. This is extremely stupid, and extremely problematic when it comes to freedom of speech. Yes, your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begin. It does not end where your invisible “me sphere” begins. I mean, how big is this site? Last I checked was when it was in the news, back in '10, so maybe it’s just bad, I don’t know. But I thought this particular aside was an interesting look into how they see things such as freedom of speech. Buncha stupid fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/2 "2015-01-19T22:42:51Z")
You’re usually so much more coherent than this. When come back, bring **tl;dr.** ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/3 "2015-01-19T23:26:18Z")
Both Holocaust denial and the likeness of Muhammad should be allowed on Facebook. If they both are, then Zuckerberg is in the right and the angry Muslim needs to stfu. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/4 "2015-01-19T23:42:47Z")
It seems to me that content that about Mohammed that Muslims would find offensive is not automatically hate speech. It would depend on the specific content. I mean, if I build a Mohammed snow man and put a picture of that on Facebook, then I’ve clearly offended some people. But is that hate speech? Hardly. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/5 "2015-01-19T23:45:58Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > You’re usually so much more coherent than this. When come back, bring **tl;dr.** Somehow I feel like I get this every time I start a pit thread. Really wish you could edit the OP after more than 5 minutes. Basically, the quoted portion is an email I got from an organization that tried to found itself as the “Muslim Facebook” in the aftermath of Draw Mohammed Day 2010. I don’t even remember why I signed up, I think it was to fuck with 'em. In any case, they say some phenomenally dumb shit about violence and hate speech. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/6 "2015-01-19T23:59:50Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > phenomenally dumb shit At the very least you are sticking to your strengths ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/7 "2015-01-20T05:06:42Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I have friends there questioning the holocaust I don’t have friends questioning the Holocaust. That’s because there’s one and only one reason to “question” it: anti-Semitism. My friends aren’t anti-Semites. Anti-Semites are not good people. Bad people are not my friends. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/8 "2015-01-20T05:24:41Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Somehow I feel like I get this every time I start a pit thread. Really wish you could edit the OP after more than 5 minutes. > > Basically, the quoted portion is an email I got from an organization that tried to found itself as the “Muslim Facebook” in the aftermath of Draw Mohammed Day 2010. I don’t even remember why I signed up, I think it was to fuck with 'em. In any case, they say some phenomenally dumb shit about violence and hate speech. Perhaps you should not have voluntarily signed up with a website which you are clearly at ideological odds with, then. How’s your explicitly pornographic My Little Pony fanfiction these days? I’d hate for your outrage at Muslims to get in the way of it. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/9 "2015-01-20T06:11:31Z")
I don’t have a Face Book. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/10 "2015-01-20T08:09:07Z")
I don’t even have eyes. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/11 "2015-01-20T10:44:26Z")
If we are judging entire communities based on random email glurge, I’m screwed, and Snopes sudden has a bigger job on their hands. Can we switch to YouTube comments? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/12 "2015-01-20T12:12:03Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > How’s your explicitly pornographic My Little Pony fanfiction these days? Wait, there’s _non_-pornographic fanfic? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/13 "2015-01-20T13:17:43Z")
You’re just jealous, bro. My last post on Veilbook got over a hundred as-salamu alaykums. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/14 "2015-01-20T14:13:08Z")
Not for nothing, but I’m willing to switch to any social media provider that gives me a _dislike_ button. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/15 "2015-01-20T15:31:23Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > You’re just jealous, bro. My last post on Veilbook got over a hundred as-salamu alaykums. Infidel! Do you not know that it’s “Assalam o Alikum”? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/16 "2015-01-20T15:50:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Wait, there’s _non_-pornographic fanfic? [Quite](https://www.fimfiction.net/story/67362/1/hard-reset/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed) [a](https://www.fimfiction.net/story/229453/1/all-the-mortal-remains/all-the-mortal-remains) [lot](https://www.fimfiction.net/story/20685/1/sunny-skies-all-day-long/chapter-1), actually, ranging from explorations of the world to examining the darker sides of the lore to things that could actually pass as legitimate episodes of the show (seriously, that last one, _Sunny Skies All Day Long_, is basically a spot-on mimic of the style of the show and the characters). (Yes, I never miss a chance to nerd out about MLP or the fandom. Why do you ask?) Also, it has come to my attention that this website is nowhere near the cultural force it had billed itself in around ca. 2011, thus making this entire thread a pointless waste of time. Well, even moreso than it already was. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/17 "2015-01-20T15:53:59Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Not for nothing, but I’m willing to switch to any social media provider that gives me a _dislike_ button. Alikum button not good enough for ya? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/18 "2015-01-20T15:54:19Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Infidel! Do you not know that it’s “Assalam o Alikum”? If you say so, _effendi._ ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/19 "2015-01-20T17:35:01Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I don’t have friends questioning the Holocaust. That’s because there’s one and only one reason to “question” it: anti-Semitism. My friends aren’t anti-Semites. Anti-Semites are not good people. Bad people are not my friends. Damn you really are holier than thou. And to brag about it on the internet. Bravo! It must get lonely up there atop all humanity. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317/20 "2015-01-20T18:12:28Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Damn you really are holier than thou. And to brag about it on the internet. Bravo! I don’t think he was bragging; he was admitting that he doesn’t have any friends. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-reminder-that-muslim-facebook-is-still-a-thing/710317.md?page=2)