# A response to Scylla that I can't make in MPSIMS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964 "2019-08-20T21:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/181 "2019-08-21T23:04:21Z")
> [@tricoteuse](#): > > I had one too! I wish I still had it. Wussies. I had a MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E. lunchbox. The images were drawn by Mort Drucker, of MAD magazine fame. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/182 "2019-08-21T23:08:25Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I can’t imagine it NOT being true. After all, **Scylla** ’s no fool. > > Nosiree. > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Hey! YOU’VE always liked me! Right? > > Right??? You know it! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/183 "2019-08-21T23:35:50Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Wussies. I had a MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E. lunchbox. The images were drawn by Mort Drucker, of MAD magazine fame. Well, I had (and still have) a 1967 Lost in Space lunchbox. It’s apparently got some value, but would be worth more if I still had the Thermos. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/184 "2019-08-21T23:39:15Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Again, I work with kids and deal with kids having meltdowns, and I see why they’re having them, every day…Sometimes it’s low blood sugar in that case the kid would probably be moping around, not raising hell. Meltdowns are far more likely due to _sugar-induced frenzy_, from an indulgent parent filling its lunchbox with Pop-Tarts and Kiddylicious Apple Fruit Wriggles\*. What **Scylla** should’ve done was calmly lecture the mom on how she needed to put only healthy treats in the little brat’s lunchbox and not subject him to elevated lifetime risks of obesity, diabetes and heart disease. \*an actual product, containing two teaspoons of sugar per package. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/185 "2019-08-22T00:01:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You know it! 🙂 I love you, too. C’mere for huggles. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/186 "2019-08-22T00:06:51Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > in that case the kid would probably be moping around, not raising hell. Meltdowns are far more likely due to _sugar-induced frenzy_, from an indulgent parent filling its lunchbox with Pop-Tarts and Kiddylicious Apple Fruit Wriggles\*. When was the last time you were around a hungry child? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/187 "2019-08-22T00:39:48Z")
So, Loach closed the original thread because I called myself a shithead and other people could not respond in kind. That’s unexpected, but I guess that’s fair and reasonable. What’s not reasonable is that he Said that I was celebrating being a shithead. That’s not true. I was just using some rhetorical judo. It’s hard to defend yourself when people are basically telling you you are a piece of shit. It’s also tiresome. When people take that route, I just generally agree with them and say “sure, I’m a total piece of shit, whatever.” It sort of takes the power away, shows that I am aware that I am flawed (when did it become anathema to present yourself in a less than favorable light on the internet, and why must we all pretend we are blameless saints?) Anyway, I mildly disagree with the decision and wish it was still open. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/188 "2019-08-22T00:44:44Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > When was the last time you were around a hungry child? Perhaps you are confusing wanting a snack with symptoms of [low blood sugar](http://kidshealth.org/en/parents/hypoglycemia.html), which include: _extreme hunger (some kids complain of a gnawing stomachache or “hunger pain”) shakiness or tremors. rapid heart rate. cold sweat. a pale, gray skin color. headache. moodiness or crankiness/irritability. drowsiness._ Some little ass pains in a Target loudly demanding lunch boxes from random strangers might be clinically hypoglycemic, but they are likely in the minority. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/189 "2019-08-22T00:51:53Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Perhaps you are confusing wanting a snack with symptoms of [low blood sugar](http://kidshealth.org/en/parents/hypoglycemia.html), which include: > > _extreme hunger (some kids complain of a gnawing stomachache or “hunger pain”) > shakiness or tremors. > rapid heart rate. > cold sweat. > a pale, gray skin color. > headache. > moodiness or crankiness/irritability. > drowsiness._ > > Some little ass pains in a Target loudly demanding lunch boxes from random strangers might be clinically hypoglycemic, but they are likely in the minority. 🙂 My son used to have full on melt downs if he didn’t have breakfast first thing when he was a preschooler. The trigger was irrelevant. The lack of food, leading to low blood sugar made him unable to regulate his emotions. But if he had breakfast when he got up he was fine. Took us way too long to figure out what was going on and once we did we were able to manage the situation much better. And sugar high hyperactivity is a myth. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/190 "2019-08-22T00:56:52Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > When was the last time you were around a hungry child? It was funny you should ask, I was at the Orphanage last week, preparing meals for the poor children because, you know, they always have really good donations at the orphanage. If you are preparing the food, than you get first pick and can either eat it yourself, or take it home for later, or sell it. It’s a really good deal and you feel good because you are helping out. Anyhow, after we were done taking what we wanted we made this thin gruel over what was left and every orphan got one generous serving. We don’t want them to get fat, and if you feed them too much they have excess energy and are difficult to control. It’s always best when they are in this mild hunger stupor. Makes things run smooth. So, i’m Working my ass off for these ungrateful kids, and just got finished and this one brat walks up and he’s like “Please Sir, I want some more?” I was stupefied! I hit him with the ladle and we held a conference over what to do. We could not tolerate somebody like that so what we did was put a bill on the door and offered $50 incentive to anyone who would take the brat off our hands. When was the last time you dealt with a hungry child? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/191 "2019-08-22T01:03:13Z")
I don’t remember what was on the lunchbox. It had orange borders. I think it was this one: > **[Thermos Pokemon Dual Compartment Lunch Bag](https://www.target.com/p/thermos-pokemon-dual-lunch-kit/-/A-54158521)** > > Read reviews and buy Thermos Pokemon Dual Compartment Lunch Bag at Target. Choose from contactless Same Day Delivery, Drive Up and more. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/192 "2019-08-22T01:35:06Z")
You are tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/193 "2019-08-22T01:44:09Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > My son used to have full on melt downs if he didn’t have breakfast first thing when he was a preschooler. The trigger was irrelevant. The lack of food, leading to low blood sugar made him unable to regulate his emotions. But if he had breakfast when he got up he was fine. Took us way too long to figure out what was going on and once we did we were able to manage the situation much better. > > And sugar high hyperactivity is a myth. Exactly. Jackmanii’s supercilious quoting of the definition of hypoglycemia, not apparently noticing that it includes moodiness, or that it’s not the only way that food can affect mood, or realizing that I listed low blood sugar as one of several possible causes of childhood meltdowns, is pretty clear evidence that he doesn’t actually spend any time around hungry kids. But hey, it’s good to hear from everyone–everyone’s opinion, no matter how pig-ignorant, is valuable! Scylla’s attempt at humor–good lord. > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > You are tiresome. For reals. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/194 "2019-08-22T01:48:47Z")
I had this lunchbox as a kid: [![](http://www.skooldays.com/images/lb1264.jpg) ](http://www.skooldays.com/images/lb1264.jpg) I have fond memories of that metal lunchbox because I recall once my neighborhood bully (who was twice my size) demanded I give it to him, and I hit him in the face with it and made him cry. I’m sure he kicked my ass later but making _him_ cry for once felt good at the time. (I wasn’t generally a violent kid and I’m definitely not as an adult but I did stand up for myself on rare occasions.) ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/195 "2019-08-22T01:50:47Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I had this lunchbox as a kid: > [http://www.skooldays.com/images/lb1264.jpg](http://www.skooldays.com/images/lb1264.jpg) > > I have fond memories of that metal lunchbox because I recall once my neighborhood bully (who was twice my size) demanded I give it to him, and I hit him in the face with it and made him cry. > > I’m sure he kicked my ass later but making _him_ cry for once felt good at the time. (I wasn’t generally a violent kid and I’m definitely not as an adult but I did stand up for myself on rare occasions.) If you are going to smack somebody with a lunchbox that’s the one to do it with. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/196 "2019-08-22T01:57:52Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Perhaps you are confusing wanting a snack with symptoms of [low blood sugar](http://kidshealth.org/en/parents/hypoglycemia.html), which include: > > _extreme hunger (some kids complain of a gnawing stomachache or “hunger pain”) > shakiness or tremors. > rapid heart rate. > cold sweat. > a pale, gray skin color. > headache. > moodiness or crankiness/irritability. > drowsiness._ > > Some little ass pains in a Target loudly demanding lunch boxes from random strangers might be clinically hypoglycemic, but they are likely in the minority. 🙂 Wait, so you’re saying low blood sugar can cause moodiness or crankiness/irritability, and thus _isn’t_ the reason for a meltdown in public? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/197 "2019-08-22T01:59:54Z")
I THINK he’s saying that when I use “low blood sugar” as a shorthand for “hasn’t eaten recently and it’s affecting the mood in a negative way,” I’m missing the fact that IT’S A MEDICAL TERM FOR PEOPLE WITH DIABETES, or at least “hypoglycemia” is, and that a minority of children having a meltdown in public are diabetic, so I’m a dummy. So there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/198 "2019-08-22T02:04:00Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Exactly. Jackmanii’s supercilious quoting of the definition of hypoglycemia, not apparently noticing that it includes moodiness, or that it’s not the only way that food can affect mood, or realizing that I listed low blood sugar as one of several possible causes of childhood meltdowns, is pretty clear evidence that he doesn’t actually spend any time around hungry kids. But hey, it’s good to hear from everyone–everyone’s opinion, no matter how pig-ignorant, is valuable! I used to me my son’s school bus when he was in kindergarten with a can of pediasure because he’d be shaking from low blood sugar. He wasn’t a big eater and struggled in kindergarten with distractions during their way too short lunch period. Otherwise he would have a really awful afternoon. Thank goodness we didn’t just decide he was a brat and scare him into a meltdown but realized that something physiological was going on. Took a couple months but he settled into a routine in school and was fine. He was 5. He just needed our help. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/199 "2019-08-22T02:12:46Z")
Getting hangry is a real thing. I’ve experienced it before. It’s even in Merriam-Webster now: > **[What's 'Hangry'?](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/hangry-meaning)** > > Just hand over the waffles and no one gets hurt. It happens to kids and adults alike. Here’s a study on the mechanism behind being hangry: > **[Link between hunger and mood explained: The sudden drop in glucose we...](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180925115218.htm)** > > The study used rats to examine the impact on emotional behavior of a sudden drop in blood sugar. When the rats were given a glucose blocker, researchers found they had higher levels of cortisol. They also showed signs of stress and sluggish behavior... I found it interesting that the stressed rats with low blood sugar responded positively to an antidepressant. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964/200 "2019-08-22T04:32:48Z")
Feel free to keep pretending you didn’t post this anti-semitic pile of bullshit. > [@Is Soros actually actively trying to change U.S. policy? Or what is the basis of the hatred?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-soros-actually-actively-trying-to-change-u-s-policy-or-what-is-the-basis-of-the-hatred/823682/44): > > I find this pretty odious: > > [https://www.dailywire.com/news/37703/media-tout-jewish-leaders-pittsburgh-telling-trump-ben-shapiro](https://www.dailywire.com/news/37703/media-tout-jewish-leaders-pittsburgh-telling-trump-ben-shapiro) > > One of Soros’ organizations basically impersonated the Pittsburgh Jewish community to blame Trump for for the shooting, and suggest he wasn’t welcome in Pittsburgh. The narrative got picked up by several news sources. > > But they don’t speak for anybody and in fact the head of the Synagogue that got shot up said he would welcome Trump. > > So, this kind of shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-response-to-scylla-that-i-cant-make-in-mpsims/838964.md?page=11)