# A River Runs Through It: A Soggy MMP

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** mmp\
**Created:** [January 31, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675 "2022-01-31T08:12:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/101 "2022-02-02T23:11:03Z")

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Just to toot my own horn about my high school theatre days. The last show my senior year was Romeo and Juliet. I played Romeo, built most of the set, and did the lighting. And I was told that a number of young ladies came to see the show multiple times because in the “morning after” scene I was on stage in only a pair of tights.

**Sunny** Yoshi sounds like a clever pupper. If the weather is crap out of one door, maybe it’ll be better out the other.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/102 "2022-02-02T23:19:10Z")

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It’s snowing. Should start turning to rain around 22:00.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Afternoon all. Was ready to start my taxes when I realized I was missing one 1099-DIV form. Tried to call the place, but their phone message says the last ones were mailed on 31 January and to leave 10 days for delivery, so they probably wouldn’t respond anyway. So I’ll wait a week and see if it shows up.

I must have a magic touch, the missing 1099-DIV was in the mail today, so hopefully I can get my taxes done after dinner. Still raining outside, not very heavy but just dreary.

Our HS had 2,700 students and IIRC (been 50 years) there was a class you could take for credit in preparing things for a stage performance. And congrats **VanGo** , you had groupies before that word entered our lexicon.

**Sunny** , great story about Yoshi. Hey, if one door doesn’t work, maybe the other…

**FCM** , Toby has a great future as another **Swampy** or me…

OK, nothing certain for tonight except dinner and taxes. All y’all take care.

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You had a fan club **VanGo**!

We never did Shakespeare in high school (I’m jealous). We did one musical (the choir director tended toward Rodgers and Hammerstein) and one non-musical production a year (_Inherit the Wind, The Hobbit, MASH, The Teahouse of August Moon_). I mostly acted in production numbers or as an extra and did backstage work.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/105 "2022-02-03T00:25:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> It’s snowing. Should start turning to rain around 22:00.

2200 on 2/2/22? Very significant, perhaps. Or not.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/106 "2022-02-03T00:42:16Z")

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I bet on a horse to win. He came in second. ☹

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/107 "2022-02-03T00:45:30Z")

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note for future me reference that day-old jack in the box jumbo cheeseburger you horfed down at 3 am? bad idea ,

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/108 "2022-02-03T00:58:13Z")

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Why? As long as it was in the fridge, it should have been fine.

I didn’t plan or get anything for dinner, so I cooked some ground beef and chopped onions with taco seasoning. We’ll have burritos on low-carb tortillas. And wine.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
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Howdy Y’all! Provisions were procured, sloth and nappage accomplished, and sup got cooked and et. Plus I went to 😲Wally\*World 😲 to get two black ink cartridges, as the one in the printer is kinda low and there were no spares. I was exhausted after that!

**MOOOOOOM** Tobster did some world class snoozin’ there! He has a great future in sloth.

**Bumba** sorry about your cousin. Hope the call to your aunt went well.

**nuts** congrats on survivin’ round one of A Thing. Appropriate/inappropriate appendages crossed for round two.

All y’all with snow, well, better thee than me.

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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/110 "2022-02-03T01:24:20Z")

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School has been canceled for tomorrow. It hasn’t even started snowing yet. Whippersnappers. But, I don’t have to go and work on the musical, so, maybe I’ll work on some other crap I gotta do.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/111 "2022-02-03T02:17:39Z")

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@JaneDoe42 i seen this and thought of George

> **[Massive cat is so big it's often mistaken for dog: 'It's funny how others react'](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/massive-maine-coon-cat-often-152320139.html)**
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> Maine Coons are the largest cat breed and are native to Maine in the U.S.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/112 "2022-02-03T02:52:18Z")

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**Bumbazine** , working up the courage to make a call like that is hard. I hope things went well.

**paintcharge** , I;ve seen several high school productions of Romeo and Juliet and I think one important thing about them is that the titular characters are pretty much the age of the actors playing them. Did you use your talents to get a date?

I am nearly done cracking the black walnuts I’ve been working on for over a week. One more session tomorrow and that’s it. So far I’ve spent twenty two hours and have a little over eleven and a quarter cups of nutmeats.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/113 "2022-02-03T02:59:36Z")

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I just ordered 16 pounds of coffee, plus two dozen K-pods, taking advantage of a 25% off coupon.

Then I get an email for 30% off. No way to cancel the previous order. I could have saved another eight bucks.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/114 "2022-02-03T03:03:00Z")

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Taxes have been completed and filed. What I am getting back from the Feds and the State will pay for my cruise trip in May and a fair amount of the Airline ticket. So that is a good thing.

Still raining. Probably will be tomorrow, too. And I still need to take the garbage to the curb. Oh joy.

Take care all.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/115 "2022-02-03T03:57:37Z")

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Napped. Dinner tonight was Italian chicken with cheesy potatoes and asparagus with garlic and Calabrian chillies.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I don’t know whether to be proud that he thought of it, or embarrassed that he doesn’t understand how inside versus outside works. Both? He’s our special boy.

Me:   
Gordie: “The neighbors have dumped a bunch of trash on our doorstep!”  
Me: “That’s the front closet, dumbass.”

: crosses fingers for **Bumba** : And sorry about the cousin.

((((Sunny}}}}

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> [@missred](#):
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> You had a fan club **VanGo**!

You **have** a fan club!

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-river-runs-through-it-a-soggy-mmp/958675/117 "2022-02-03T04:15:16Z")

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Help. People are giving me serious cold feet about this surgery. People keep telling me about others who had minimally invasive back surgery and had bad results. One guy uses a huge cane and can only shuffle because he can’t lift his feet. Another guy–a young one–has been off work 4 weeks and still can’t manage on his own. I googled my specific surgery to prove I won’t be facing those dangers, and every site says this surgery only relieves sciatica–which I don’t have–not lower back pain.

What if I’m making a big mistake? What if I end up worse–or even the same?

**bumba** , I hope the call wasn’t as hard as you feared. And I’m so sorry about your cousin.

**sunny** , it’s nice to have an optimistic dog.

> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> > [@missred](#):
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> > You had a fan club **VanGo**!
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> You **have** a fan club!

First dibs on the mosh pit!

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Howdy everyone. Another boring day. I did nothing today. It was maid day so the house is spiffed up. I tried to walk barefooted today and I am unstable without the boot so I’m guessing a couple more weeks of nursing it. Will this ever be over?

Fingers crossed for **Nut’s** Thing.  
Best wishes for **Nellie’s** surgery.

Everyone else hugs.

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> What if I’m making a big mistake?

You’re not. Remember, if the surgery was not appropriate for your diagnosis, the insurance plan would have never agreed to pay for it. They are pretty cold-hearted that way.

I think there is a significant lag between ‘off label’ procedures being credited with being appropriate. Medical/surgical science can be a plodding beast.

In my experience home nursing people with similar surgeries, they come out ahead (there will be caveats). I cannot remember anyone worse off, much less crippled. Now for the caveats: follow all post op instructions to the letter, including physical therapy and exercises and especially activity restrictions. Keep follow-up appointments. Keep expectations reasonable, there are no easy or quick cures. Hope for improvement, rather than counting on a complete fix~glass half full and all.

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> What if I’m making a big mistake? What if I end up worse–or even the same?

Back surgery doesn’t fix everything. It might fix you. It might stabilize you. It might make you worse. I will admit to being concerned with how easy your dr made it all sound. I’ve been through 3 major back surgeries and several minor ones, and I have an opinion which I hereby present. If you have the option, I think a second opinion is not a bad idea.

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