# A-Rod: "I Wasn't Exactly Sure They Were Steroids." **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364 "2009-02-18T04:24:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/21 "2009-02-18T23:34:54Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I still reject the notion that an athlete will inject himself with something he knows nothing about but some 3rd world friend said it was good. Cousin, not friend, assuming any of that was true, and the implication was that they trained together. If so, I’d be less surprised Rodriguez trusted his word. And what’s a “3rd world friend?” You know Rodriguez was born in the Dominican, right? > [@](#): > > I believe he knew full well what he was taking. He just felt he would never get caught. Agreed on the second part. As for knowing what they’re taking… I can’t believe Barry Bonds thought designer steroids were flaxseed oil, but I can believe Alex Rodriguez didn’t know exactly what he was taking here. He knew it was against the rules and he knew what it was supposed to do for him, that’s what mattered. It’s not like he went home and built a model of its chemical structure. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/22 "2009-02-19T01:01:56Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You know Rodriguez was born in the Dominican, right? Only if the Dominican Republic annexed New York City. Rodriguez was born in Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/23 "2009-02-19T05:07:30Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > …I’ve read that he has a huge cock and knows how to use it! Apparently he peed in the wrong container at least once. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/24 "2009-02-19T09:15:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Apparently he peed in the wrong container at least once. You mean he peed in Madonna’s dirtbox? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/25 "2009-02-19T11:59:38Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Only if the Dominican Republic annexed New York City. Rodriguez was born in Manhattan. Right you are. But he’s of Dominican ancestry and lived there for some time as a child. I’m not sure exactly what gonzomax was getting at in any case. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/26 "2009-02-19T13:52:55Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Right you are. But he’s of Dominican ancestry and lived there for some time as a child. I’m not sure exactly what gonzomax was getting at in any case. I think the idea was that people from the third world are less trustworthy and honest. Them shifty foreigners, doncha know. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/27 "2009-02-19T17:09:14Z")
Actually I would think you could get pretty good medical advice from people in the US. He is rich and can afford the best. He does not have to believe or accept something suggested by a cousin . He has access to the best labs in the world , right here. You do not just take something a friend of a cousin suggested. You don’t if you have better options. he has better options. It is not about a foreigner at all. The story does not ring true. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/28 "2009-02-19T17:15:34Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Actually I would think you could get pretty good medical advice from people in the US. He is rich and can afford the best. He certainly can. Of course, most of those people may not want to prescribe drugs illegally, which is how the Brian McNamees and Kurt Radomskis of the world get involved. > [@](#): > > You do not just take something a friend of a cousin suggested. You don’t if you have better options. he has better options. If anything you might be giving this guy too much credit for his intelligence. And I don’t know for sure what happened either. It’s a self-serving story and there isn’t much of it I would take as gospel. I do think it’s possible he’d take something on the advice of a cousin, but he wouldn’t name the guy - so yes, it’s just as possible “my cousin” was a person Rodriguez knew was a steroid dealer or something. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/29 "2009-02-19T17:23:04Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > If anything you might be giving this guy too much credit for his intelligence. And I don’t know for sure what happened either. It’s a self-serving story and there isn’t much of it I would take as gospel. I do think it’s possible he’d take something on the advice of a cousin, but he wouldn’t name the guy - so yes, it’s just as possible “my cousin” was a person Rodriguez knew was a steroid dealer or something. We’re talking about a man who controls his daily caloric intake to the _n_th degree. It’s highly disingenuous to suggest he allowed a non-physician to shoot him up with something and didn’t find out what it was first. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/30 "2009-02-19T17:27:26Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > It’s got to be some sort of curse by God that the best baseball player in the world was a monumental asshole, and now he’s gone and the new best baseball player in the world is either a complete asshole or an absolute moron or, it seems likely, a bit of both. Are Yankee fans actually going to cheer for this bastard? I think unlike Giants Fans that never stopped cheering for Bonds, Yankee fans will be mixed. There will be those who do cheer, those who don’t and of course those that boo him. I never booed him and I have cheered for him when he did something to good or to win the game. I still will not boo him and now I probably won’t cheer either. I imagine the number of 13s in the stadium will decrease. Despite all the talk of the fan never embracing him, I saw more 13s then any active numbers but 2 and 42. (Jeter & Mo) Though maybe less than the 3s, 4s, 5s & 7s. (Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle) Fan reaction to Giambi was fairly mixed. I think it helped that he partially admited to it and it will help A-Rod somewhat to. I am not buying A-Rod’s story. I would like to know the full truth. I would also like to see all the names on that damn list released. I would also like someone to give me a 67’ SS Camaro and I would like Baseball to be clean and the Yankees to rattle off another 5 straight World Series victories. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Superhero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Superhero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Superhero)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/31 "2009-02-19T17:53:41Z")
> [@Incensed](#): > > Nailed it. I thought A-Rod had done the [del]right[/del] optimal thing, mostly, in the initial interview (‘I did it, I’m sorry’). Granted, he was selling bullshit, but it was only about 1/4 as pure as what Bonds and Clemens are peddling. You know what they say, though: If you mix 10 gallons of ice cream with a gallon of horse manure, you get 11 gallons of horse manure. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/32 "2009-02-19T18:51:12Z")
I have known some serious athletes in my time. Even the ones who are not bright could give you a lecture on the interplay of different drugs on the body. How they work, how they counter or help other drugs and what is believed to be long term effects. I have always been surprised to see how much they know. But then ask anybody about what they do for a living and their knowledge is great.I do not believe these guys are one step away from retarded. I do not believe they get talked into things like children. The league gives them lectures every spring training. They know what they are dealing with. Once caught ,they come up with absurd unprovable stories. Just like a crook the cops catch and he says he found the loot on the street and a guy he never met gave him the gun. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/33 "2009-02-19T19:31:39Z")
His orange hue (dollar store sunless tanning lotion?) may be the proof of his pattern of using something shitty when he could’ve afforded better. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/34 "2009-02-19T21:20:05Z")
> [@An\_Arky](#): > > His orange hue (dollar store sunless tanning lotion?) may be the proof of his pattern of using something shitty when he could’ve afforded better. He probably thinks it looks good. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/35 "2009-02-19T21:55:17Z")
Hell., he thought Madonna looks good. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/36 "2009-02-19T22:00:07Z")
Well, to be fair, hooking up with someone who doesn’t care about his money is the most sensible thing he’s done lately. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/37 "2009-02-19T22:13:34Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Hell., he thought Madonna looks good. Madonna is 50 years old. If you don’t think she looks good at that age, you’re crazy. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/38 "2009-02-19T22:20:30Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Madonna is 50 years old. If you don’t think she looks good at that age, you’re crazy. Good for her age but not good overall. A-Rod is a ridiculously wealthy 34 year old with a wife that was/is hotter. He could and should in theory be able to hook up with someone better looking and with far less baggage if he was going to cheat on his wife. BTW: One more example of him being a dirtbag and somewhat stupid at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/39 "2009-02-19T23:59:25Z")
I would think Madonna wasn’t even in the first 20 women he cheated on his wife with. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364/40 "2009-02-20T20:18:20Z")
[A bunch more news coming out today.](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3921929) I’m not sure I’ve sorted through all of it but it makes more sense than Rodriguez’s original story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rod-i-wasnt-exactly-sure-they-were-steroids/486364.md?page=1)