# A running commentary on the 9/11 movie on ABC tonight-live as we watch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232 "2006-09-11T00:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/21 "2006-09-11T02:47:42Z")
No Berger scene. They caved. Groovy. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/22 "2006-09-11T02:49:35Z")
On the whole, a boring film. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/23 "2006-09-11T02:51:00Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] \*ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, Toon Disney, SOAPnet, ABC Family Channel, A&E Television Networks (A&E, **The History Channel** , The Biography Channel), Lifetime Entertainment Services (Lifetime Television, Lifetime Movie Network), E! Networks (E! Entertainment Television, The Style Network) [/QUOTE] Hmmm. I was wondering why the History Channel spikes with right-wing propaganda every election season. Today, we got a program on “World War III” (they really titled it that way) explaining why we just _have_ to go to war with Iran right this very minute. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/24 "2006-09-11T03:01:34Z")
[QUOTE=spoke-] Hmmm. I was wondering why the History Channel spikes with right-wing propaganda every election season. Today, we got a program on “World War III” (they really titled it that way) explaining why we just _have_ to go to war with Iran right this very minute. [/QUOTE] Considering this was the History Channel, did it have something to do with Zombie Hitler? ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/25 "2006-09-11T03:26:25Z")
[QUOTE=asterion] Considering this was the History Channel, did it have something to do with Zombie Hitler? [/QUOTE] Well, sorta. Ahmadinejad is supposed to be Hitler reincarnate, dontchaknow. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/26 "2006-09-11T03:31:04Z")
[QUOTE=asterion] Zombie Hitler? [/QUOTE] Wait a minute, Hitler’s a Zombie now? So Rev. Moon _wasn’t speaking figuratively_ at [his congressional reception](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61932-2004Jun22.html)? > [@](#): > > More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be “reborn as new persons.” I thought Hitler had just been reborn in a ‘standing beside Jesus’ sort of way. Thanks for clearing that up **asterion**. Ignorance has been fought! ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/27 "2006-09-11T03:34:36Z")
Real men watch football. Pretty good game, too. Damn shame you all are wasting time watching a movie you went into hating. But, if that’s what gets you fired up, more power to you. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/28 "2006-09-11T03:39:20Z")
Naw, real men are watching the 9/11 film by the Gaudet brothers over on CBS and bawling their eyes out at “Danny Boy” being sung over the images of the fallen firefighters. ☹ I did switch over and watched about two minutes of the ABC thing after the good movie was finished, but the actors took me right out of the moment. Hard to concentrate when you’re playing H!ITG! with half the cast. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/29 "2006-09-11T03:44:01Z")
Admittedly, this political stuff lacks the overtones of repressed violence and homeroticism… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/30 "2006-09-11T03:52:01Z")
Me, I got out a DVD and for the umpteenth time re-watched that epic document of the class struggle, the classic film that has shaped so much of my political philospophy, _Caddyshack_. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/31 "2006-09-11T03:54:08Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] I’m a little bit angry, because I think this material is serious enough that it deserves to be dealt with faithfully. [/QUOTE] See, we disagreed in the other thread about this movie and then you had to go say something eminently thought-out and respectable in this one. What’s your deal anyway? 😉 I think made-for-TV movies are the kind least likely to treat any topic seriously and faithfully. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/32 "2006-09-11T03:59:15Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] _Caddyshack_. [/QUOTE] [Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women](http://www.archive.org/details/VoyagetothePlanetofPrehistoricWomen) served for me; real top-notch Soviet entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/33 "2006-09-11T11:21:51Z")
Didn’t see it. If I was in Nazi Germany I probably would have skipped some Goebbels radio broadcasts too. What I _did_ see on Koppel’s show on Discovery was enough to make my blood boil. The US took an innocent Canadian citizen, arrested him as he switched planes in New York, interrogated and jailed him without so much as a phone call, then deported him to Syria where he was tortured. Eventually the Canadian government got his release, but the US stole this man’s life. 9/11 changed America all right- it turned us into monsters. ---
**Author:** ![Subway\_Prophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Subway\_Prophet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subway_Prophet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/34 "2006-09-11T12:50:42Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] I’ve blocked all the ABC and Disney-owned channels\* […] \*ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, Disney Channel, Toon Disney, SOAPnet, ABC Family Channel, A&E Television Networks (A&E, The History Channel, The Biography Channel), Lifetime Entertainment Services (Lifetime Television, Lifetime Movie Network), E! Networks (E! Entertainment Television, The Style Network) [/QUOTE] Ya know, I would’ve expected to see at least _one_ decent channel in that list, but I don’t think I’d miss a single one of them, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/35 "2006-09-11T13:04:01Z")
> [@](#): > > Ya know, I would’ve expected to see at least one decent channel in that list, but I don’t think I’d miss a single one of them, myself. The History Channel was one of the reasons I signed up for cable – then I started watching it and was deeply disappointed. Little between-show bits cheerfully offering up stuff I knew was bullshit (like the debunked “deeper meaning” of “Ring Around the Rosie”); cheesy reenactments and superficial treatments of interesting subjects; and of course Hitler out the whazoo. It’s still a great _idea_ for a cable channel. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/36 "2006-09-11T13:10:10Z")
History Channel can be very good or awful. Some of their stuff is informative and fun to watch (their series on the presidents was quite entertaining and full of tidbits), but they have more than their share of tinfoil hat stuff too. I wish they had more Hitler, I find the WW II stuff to be among their better shows. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/37 "2006-09-11T13:27:33Z")
While all of you were “not watching” the docudrama on ABC, the show on The Discovey Channel was pretty much the counter point many of you were calling for. Simulcast on NPR, had a fairly left-leaning panel (George Soros, a Muslim ACLU lawyer, some guy who got in the “Bush apologist” talking point, etc.) and spent a good deal of time raking the Bush administration over the coals on the treatment of prisoners and the domestic intelligence gathering operations. Just the kind of meat and potatoes program that I would have thought many of the members here would have liked to see. It’s a pity many of you spent the time “not watching” or hitting blogs to get updates on a docudrama, the non-fiction offering with Ted Koppel was actually _worth_ watching. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/38 "2006-09-11T16:32:29Z")
Yeah, now I wish I’d seen the thing on Discovery. Have to look for a repeat. Maybe the continuation of the ABC movie tonight will have a scene showing Rice deciding to ignore Richard Clarke’s advice to focus on Al Qaeda, or Ashcroft saying “I don’t want to hear any more about terrorism.” Or maybe they’ll show a meeting of Cheney’s anti-terrorism task force (which would have to be a dramatization, since the task force never met). I love the idea that you have to make up stuff to “dramatize” the story of 9/11. Apparently it wasn’t dramatic enough already. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/39 "2006-09-11T17:03:14Z")
[QUOTE=Duke of Rat] While all of you were “not watching” the docudrama on ABC, the show on The Discovey Channel was pretty much the counter point many of you were calling for. Simulcast on NPR, had a fairly left-leaning panel (George Soros, a Muslim ACLU lawyer, some guy who got in the “Bush apologist” talking point, etc.) and spent a good deal of time raking the Bush administration over the coals on the treatment of prisoners and the domestic intelligence gathering operations. Just the kind of meat and potatoes program that I would have thought many of the members here would have liked to see. It’s a pity many of you spent the time “not watching” or hitting blogs to get updates on a docudrama, the non-fiction offering with Ted Koppel was actually _worth_ watching. [/QUOTE] It was the Discovery Channel, who did they show mating with whom? - The Bloodhound Gang ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/40 "2006-09-11T19:55:47Z")
[NFL Tops ABC 9/11 Show in Ratings ABC airs edited 9/11 drama and then gets run over in the ratings by football game](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/11/ap/entertainment/mainD8K2Q3980.shtml) > [@](#): > > The movie was flattened in the ratings by the debut of NBC’s Sunday night football, matching Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts against his younger brother Eli of the New York Giants. The football game had an estimated 20.7 million viewers, while “The Path to 9/11” had 13 million, according to Nielsen Media Research. > > The ABC movie did, however, beat CBS’ third airing of its “9/11” documentary, which was seen by an estimated 10.6 million people, Nielsen said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232.md?page=3)