# A running commentary on the 9/11 movie on ABC tonight-live as we watch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232 "2006-09-11T00:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/41 "2006-09-11T20:59:58Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] [NFL Tops ABC 9/11 Show in Ratings ABC airs edited 9/11 drama and then gets run over in the ratings by football game](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/11/ap/entertainment/mainD8K2Q3980.shtml) [/QUOTE] And tonight, it’s up against Monday Night Football. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/42 "2006-09-11T21:01:25Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] And tonight, it’s up against Monday Night Football. 🙂 [/QUOTE] On ESPN, owned by the same parent company. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/43 "2006-09-11T21:11:44Z")
The 2nd part is nearly over here. So far they’ve done the actual attacks pretty well I have to say. I won’t go any further as you guys haven’t seen it yet. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/44 "2006-09-11T21:19:30Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > And tonight, it’s up against Monday Night Football. 🙂 So what are they trying to do, rope in the chicks? I’m in full agreement with anybody who hates this thing, the snippets I’ve seen are horrible, just horrible. I am so embarrassed for Harvey Keitel. He’s come a long way since _The Piano_. There’s one item that surprised me, a little. John Miller is very heavily featured in this “film.” Does anybody else have a serious issue with this? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/45 "2006-09-11T21:22:43Z")
[QUOTE=yojimbo] I won’t go any further as you guys haven’t seen it yet. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I never found out what happened to the towers! 😉 (I say spoil away.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/46 "2006-09-11T21:38:23Z")
Yeah, give! Does it show Condi saying “Whoooo could imagine!”? Does it show Shit for Brains ignoring the intelligence advisory “Osama comin’ to get yo mamma!”? How about how he boldly flew to New York in only a few days! Any mention of “My Pet Goat-felcher”? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/47 "2006-09-11T21:41:40Z")
Well I was more talking about the differences in the first part and the second. There was a lot more politicians involved in the first one. Apart from Condi there was very little showing the Bush Admin making bad calls. It was heavily put on the intelligence community. I’m by no means saying that the intelligence agencies didn’t fuck up. Was the Clinton ambassador to Yemen really that fucking stupid and up her own arse? I don’t know, but she came across as a real stupid bitch in this. Clark came out of it pretty good I have to say. The times Bush was in it he was painted as the leader and defiant after the attack. No hint at confusion from his POV at all. Cheney also wasn’t shown in a bad light. He was only shown after the fact dealing with the situation in the White House. You really got the impression that they were all over this from an intell POV but for various reasons they just didn’t join the dots. I’ll be interested to see what you guys from both sides of the US political scene think of it. As a piece of TV it was pretty crap but as a historical document it was pretty shabby as well IMO. Because of the issues raised in this thread I didn’t know what to believe and what not too. What was wrong with just going with what they actually know happened and what was said. Just put the words of people into actors mouths and throw a big budget at it. As I said earlier IMO the BBC dealt with the attacks better in a real docu-drama way. That and other shows have seriously examined the events of 9/11 both before and on the actual day. There hasn’t been a show on any station that I’ve seen (and I’ve watched most of them) that didn’t try to be as accurate as possible. ‘Entertainment’ was no-where on the list of things to achieve and every side was criticised when the facts where there to back it up. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/48 "2006-09-11T21:49:13Z")
[QUOTE=Duke of Rat] On ESPN, owned by the same parent company. [/QUOTE] True. Seems like they’re fighting for the same audience. I’m ready to boycott MNF - except when the Redskins are on. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/49 "2006-09-11T21:59:51Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] [Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women](http://www.archive.org/details/VoyagetothePlanetofPrehistoricWomen) served for me; real top-notch Soviet entertainment. [/QUOTE] Hey!! That is one of my favorites movies of all time!! I saw it in the movie theatre under too different titles. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/50 "2006-09-11T22:02:47Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] True. Seems like they’re fighting for the same audience… [/QUOTE] Whaddaya talkin’? Any true-blue red blooded American, given a choice between a badly written piece of wing-nut propaganda and a dumb ol’ football game? What are you suggesting? Now, since I’m already on record as hating freedom, I have no qualms about pounding some suds and cheering on the ViQueens. This year, for sure! ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/51 "2006-09-11T22:21:22Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] True. Seems like they’re fighting for the same audience. [/QUOTE] Yeah, almost makes it look like the Disney Cabal forgot to add brainwashing across all their domain. If they pre-empt the game with that shit, I’ll be pissed (and I don’t give a rat’s ass about MNF). ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/52 "2006-09-11T22:32:00Z")
[QUOTE=ouryL] Hey!! That is one of my favorites movies of all time!! [/QUOTE] I was serious. I watched it for the first time last night. It was a damn good movie! They even got the rocket eshaust right, both at liftoff and in space; must of had some hella technical advisors. BTW, someone’s [digitally redone the old Venera probe images](http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060911_venus_images.html). [Here](http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=060911_venera13_sfc_02.jpg&cap=Soviet+Venera-13+imagery+of+Venus+has+undergone+computer+magic+to+bring+out+never-before-seen+details+of+distant+hills.+Courtesy%3A+Don+Mitchell) and [here](http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=060911_venera14_sfc_02.jpg&cap=Computer+and+software+enhanced+Venera-14+imagery+shows+the+barren+landscape+of+hellish+Venus.+Courtesy%3A+Don+Mitchell). Other than the water, the movie’s not so far off. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/53 "2006-09-12T01:04:46Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] The movie was flattened in the ratings by the debut of NBC’s Sunday night football, matching Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts against his younger brother Eli of the New York Giants. The football game had an estimated 20.7 million viewers, while “The Path to 9/11” had 13 million, according to Nielsen Media Research. The ABC movie did, however, beat CBS’ third airing of its “9/11” documentary, which was seen by an estimated 10.6 million people, Nielsen said. [/QUOTE] I’d be _more_ worried that my new, highly publicized movie only beat a show which had been aired for the **third** time by 13 mil. to 10 mil. Shows you how little the public cared about the ABC show. I’d pay hard cash to have a breakdown on how many people started out watching the ABC movie, and switched away to something else within 30 mins. I’ll bet quite a few. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/54 "2006-09-12T02:32:13Z")
Well shucks! I was hoping for something filled with lies and deceit; sort of the flip-side of F 911. Didn’t happen. Even The Billaries couldn’t get upset about this bland presentation from ABC. I was so looking forward to observing my favorite loony lefties here on the SDMB hop around like they had a shoe catch on fire. No such luck! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/55 "2006-09-12T02:38:12Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] Well shucks! I was hoping for something filled with lies and deceit [/quote] Maybe you could get a used copy of the movie version from two weeks ago. 🙂 > [@](#): > > I was so looking forward to observing my favorite loony lefties here on the SDMB hop around like they had a shoe catch on fire. No such luck! ☹ We had to give that up with the arrest of Richard Reid. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/56 "2006-09-12T02:43:59Z")
It is not just the evil Democrats mad at ABC’s lies. American Airlines is protesting ABC’s somewhat fictional account of the events of 9/11. > [@](#): > > Airline spokesman Roger Frizzell said Monday that the miniseries falsely portrays an American gate agent at Boston’s Logan Airport allowing a terrorist onto a flight despite a warning that he might have been a threat. > > “It’s important for the public to know that the ABC dramatization is inaccurate and irresponsible in its portrayal of the airport check-in events that occurred on the morning of September 11,” Frizzell said. So now ABC is switching the blame for 9/11 to American Airlines. Hope AA votes with their pocketbook. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/57 "2006-09-12T02:53:05Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] Maybe you could get a used copy of the movie version from two weeks ago. 🙂 [/QUOTE] No, man! That won’t get the job done. I don’t want to actually _watch_ it. What I wanted to watch was the Leaping Loonies of Leftitude’s reaction to it. They are so much fun when they get all riled up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/58 "2006-09-12T02:59:17Z")
Boy, you got us there, **John**! We get so _excited_ about such silly, silly stuff! Like lies. And wars. Lies that lead to wars! Goofy, goofy us! Good thing we have calm and sensible people like you, keep us in line. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/59 "2006-09-12T03:03:52Z")
“Osama bin Laden and other terrorists are still in hiding. Our message to them is clear: No matter how long it takes, America **will** find you, and we **will** bring you to justice,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/60 "2006-09-12T03:11:06Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Boy, you got us there, **John**! We get so _excited_ about such silly, silly stuff! Like lies. And wars. Lies that lead to wars! Goofy, goofy us! Good thing we have calm and sensible people like you, keep us in line. [/QUOTE] Where did I claim to be calm and sensible? I get riled up too, just about different things than y’all do. You gotta’ admit (or maybe you don’t) that some of you need to step back from time to time, take a deep breath, and look around. Then look at some of your own posts. To the casual observer y’all write some funny stuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232.md?page=4)