# A running commentary on the 9/11 movie on ABC tonight-live as we watch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232 "2006-09-11T00:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/61 "2006-09-12T03:21:44Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] I get riled up too, just about different things than y’all do. [/quote] If not wars and lies and torture, then what \*do \* you get riled up about? Tell us, do, O Superior Lifeform. > [@](#): > > To the casual observer y’all write some funny stuff. Only to a \*very \* casual observer. Casual as in “doesn’t give a damn about much of anything”, that is. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/62 "2006-09-12T04:31:39Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] If not wars and lies and torture, then what \*do \* you get riled up about? Tell us, do, O Superior Lifeform. [/QUOTE] Let’s see: I bought me a new horse a couple of months ago. Before we came to a meetin’ of the minds, he bucked me waaay up in the air and I landed on a hard rock road. That got my attention for a spell. Then a few weeks ago I was changin’ a tire on my truck, and when I got done and went to pick the flat up, a rattlesnake had coiled hisself around it. _That_ got me excited sho-nuff! Then there’s that Ashley Judd gal: I can get riled up a good bit just watchin’ one of her movies. I can also get right _intense_ about the Auburn Tigers football team. So there’s four things right there: Horses, rattlesnakes, women and football. I’d recommend you try at least some of 'em, to some degree. I don’t expect any of them things will give you a stroke, which is certainly going to happen to you if you keep obsessing over this here Bush situation. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/63 "2006-09-12T04:38:31Z")
This sort of thing is what distinguishes the backwards and brutish cracker from the evolved and perceptive peckerwood. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/64 "2006-09-12T05:15:41Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] This sort of thing is what distinguishes the backwards and brutish cracker from the evolved and perceptive peckerwood. [/QUOTE] I dunno. I got me a cousin that’s a peckerwood, lives over in New Braunfels. Went to Baylor to study bein’ a cheerleader. There’s times when she don’t seem all that perceptive. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/65 "2006-09-12T05:38:15Z")
Baylor? “The Athens on the Brazos”? The Vatican Library of the Baptists? I have a cousin who was an Aggie (we don’t talk much about him, we’re still kind of ambivalent about the prospect of parole) and another who went to UT till he got drafted. But none who have trod such a rarified height, nor such a position of personal purity, as a Baylor cheerleader! A word like “chaste” seems too pale, too weak for such Vestals as these, committed to go to the alter chaste, or the grave, but one or the other, and none other. I am stunned, it is too many for me. I fold. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/66 "2006-09-12T06:03:23Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] Let’s see: I bought me a new horse a couple of months ago. Before we came to a meetin’ of the minds, he bucked me waaay up in the air and I landed on a hard rock road. That got my attention for a spell. [/QUOTE] [hijack] Okay, you’ve distracted me from the Bush-bashing obsession. What breed – Quarter Horse, Fox Trotter, TB, Walker, what? Short-coupled? That type can snap its back and launch you for damn sure. (Although my old QH preferred to dump me with his drop-shoulder side-spook plus spin – less work for him, and he was always about conservation of energy.) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/67 "2006-09-12T09:57:29Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] I don’t expect any of them things will give you a stroke, which is certainly going to happen to you if you keep obsessing over this here Bush situation. [/QUOTE] FWIW, I think Auburn is overrated. Anyway, we don’t have a choice about blasting the Bush administration. It’s what patriots do when the government has been hijacked by the criminally insane. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/68 "2006-09-12T16:29:41Z")
True or false or somewhere in between, this movie showed that the people, whose job it is to protect us, were/are too worried about protecting their jobs to protect us. No big surprise. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/69 "2006-09-12T17:05:09Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] I can also get right _intense_ about the Auburn Tigers football team. [/QUOTE] This explains a lot. Cheatin’ bastids! And your coach’s name sounds like something out of a bad movie. Wasn’t if the Auburn Tigers of 1978 that went 6-5 with William Andrews, Joe Cribbs and James Brooks, all future pro running backs on the team? Underachievers! ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/70 "2006-09-12T17:22:38Z")
[QUOTE=randwill] True or false or somewhere in between, this movie showed that the people, whose job it is to protect us, were/are too worried about protecting their jobs to protect us. No big surprise. [/QUOTE] And all it would’ve taken was a simple memo (bolding and underlining mine). . . [ > [@](#): > > [Mike Tuohey, the US Airways ticket agent who checked in Mohamed Atta and Abdul Aziz al Omari for the first leg of their flight from Portland, Maine to Boston] talks now about the anger. About all he learned in the years after. **About a briefing to the president on August 6, 2001. “It was all there,”** Tuohey says. “Osama bin Laden. Hijackings. Buildings in New York City. These weren’t dots they had to connect. These were potholes. **If just those words – _hijackings, terrorists_ – had come down to us, we’d have gone to level 3 security.** Now here I am. I have two young Arabic men in front of me. One-way tickets, checking in just minutes before departure. **At level 3, I would have been required to notify security. Their bags would have been opened. What we saw would have set off suspicions: a pilot’s uniform, a video on flying jets.** Airline pilots do not buy $2,400 first-class tickets. Airline pilots are the cheapest people on earth. Right there, we would have known something was wrong. This was preventable.” ]([http://www.yankeemagazine.com/thisissue/features/fiveyears911.php](http://www.yankeemagazine.com/thisissue/features/fiveyears911.php)) The American Airlines ticket agent who checked Atta and al Omari in at Logan airport in Boston committed suicide. And ABC/Disney has the unmitigated _gall_ to egregiously misrepresent the agents’ roles on that fateful day, basically pointing a bigass finger right at them! A woman is dead and they besmirch her memory with fucking lies. The people who wrote, made, financed, broadcast or in any way worked on this piece of filth have no souls. And the fucking prick – the man who had been _told_ this was being planned and who actually _had_ the power to do something about it – uses the anniversary of this tragedy for his fucking political grandstanding. Every fucking one of them makes me sick. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/71 "2006-09-13T03:17:24Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Baylor? “The Athens on the Brazos”? The Vatican Library of the Baptists? I have a cousin who was an Aggie (we don’t talk much about him, we’re still kind of ambivalent about the prospect of parole) and another who went to UT till he got drafted. But none who have trod such a rarified height, nor such a position of personal purity, as a Baylor cheerleader! A word like “chaste” seems too pale, too weak for such Vestals as these, committed to go to the alter chaste, or the grave, but one or the other, and none other. I am stunned, it is too many for me. I fold. [/QUOTE] I got the impression that this particular Baylor Belle was more chased than chaste. Speakin’ of Aggies, after my cuz got her degree in cheerleadin’ she married an ex-student. He went into cotton farmin’ and she set up makin’ babies. She produced four little peckerwoods, which number is greater than the number of profitable years he’s had growing cotton. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Okay, you’ve distracted me from the Bush-bashing obsession. What breed – Quarter Horse, Fox Trotter, TB, Walker, what? Short-coupled? That type can snap its back and launch you for damn sure. (Although my old QH preferred to dump me with his drop-shoulder side-spook plus spin – less work for him, and he was always about conservation of energy.) I didn’t think anybody would have the ill grace to ask that question! This being the internet and all, I suppose I could claim that the offending horse is a wild mustang, fresh and hard from the western plains. Or perhaps he’s of rodeo lineage, a trained buckin’ bronco? Of course, there have been any number of falls, several the result of a slipped saddle. (There are those who would claim that my saddle stays about half-slipped anyway.) No, I will not lie. The first horse to actually buck me off in 30 years is ¼-quarter horse and ¾ Welsh Pony. :o :o :o :o :o > [@BobLibDem](#): > > FWIW, I think Auburn is overrated. Maybe, maybe not….Time will tell. > [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Wasn’t if the Auburn Tigers of 1978 that went 6-5 with William Andrews, Joe Cribbs and James Brooks, all future pro running backs on the team? Underachievers! Heh, the most remarkable thing I’ve seen along those lines was about that same era: The Florida Wallow-Gators went 0-11 or maybe it was 0-10-1 for the season, then had 10 (Count 'em TEN) players drafted by NFL teams. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/72 "2006-09-13T04:31:10Z")
[QUOTE=Scylla] The whole Donnie Wahlberg “we’ve got Osama Bin Laden in our cites” while Clinton says he didn’t have sex with Lewinsky makes me cringe. [/QUOTE] It made me cringe but maybe for different reasons than you. There’s a _whole world_ outside of the United States and America’s only concern is this sex scandal. In the context of the film, you have the 1998 bombings and then you have the Lewinsky story. Which is more important; foreign policy or, ahem, domestic policy? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/73 "2006-09-13T05:06:14Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] No, I will not lie. The first horse to actually buck me off in 30 years is ¼-quarter horse and ¾ Welsh Pony. :o :o :o :o :o [/QUOTE] Heh. With that breeding? No wonder! I’ve always subscribed to the school of thought it’s the little ones that have the lightning quickness to get out from under you before you know they’re fixin’ to leave. That’s generally a handsome cross, though. We’ve got one at our barn, and at age 20+ he’s still [looking good](http://pets.webshots.com/photo/554074501/2424336750000735275SSsklg) and full of beans. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/74 "2006-09-13T13:09:34Z")
So, did the include the scene where Dubya beats Osama to death with the Constitution? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/75 "2006-09-13T15:42:10Z")
I saw something in the paper yesterday about an FBI agent who was retained as a consultant on the show but resigned partway through the project because he could not in good conscience participate in such overtly partisan fabrications. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to google up a link today. Anybody else see this? ---
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[QUOTE=Cervaise] I saw something in the paper yesterday about an FBI agent who was retained as a consultant on the show but resigned partway through the project because he could not in good conscience participate in such overtly partisan fabrications. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to google up a link today. Anybody else see this? [/QUOTE] If it’s Thomas Nicoletti you’re talking about, there’s an interview with him at the following link > **[Thomas Nicoletti Quits ABC's Path To 9/11](https://crooksandliars.com/2006/09/09/thomas-nicoletti-quits-abcs-path-to-911)** > > Thomas Nicoletti told Keith Olbermann why he bolted from ABC's production. > > Video-WMP Video-QT > > (h/t Media Matters for the vid) > > Mia Culpa has more... ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/77 "2006-09-13T20:22:28Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Heh. With that breeding? No wonder! I’ve always subscribed to the school of thought it’s the little ones that have the lightning quickness to get out from under you before you know they’re fixin’ to leave. That’s generally a handsome cross, though. We’ve got one at our barn, and at age 20+ he’s still [looking good](http://pets.webshots.com/photo/554074501/2424336750000735275SSsklg) and full of beans. [/QUOTE] Well, not intending to turn this into a horse-pic thread, but: [This](http://image53.webshots.com/553/3/81/36/2931381360011813612WyMFAn_fs.jpg) little jerk is eleven years old, and fast! Er, that would be the horse. The girl is 15, and hopefully not “fast” :eek: . (Granddaughter, ya’ know.) ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/78 "2006-09-13T21:08:18Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] [This](http://image53.webshots.com/553/3/81/36/2931381360011813612WyMFAn_fs.jpg) [/QUOTE] Do you always set up your horse-troughs running through the trunks of trees? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232/79 "2006-09-13T22:19:37Z")
[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] Well, not intending to turn this into a horse-pic thread, but: [This](http://image53.webshots.com/553/3/81/36/2931381360011813612WyMFAn_fs.jpg) little jerk is eleven years old, and fast! Er, that would be the horse. The girl is 15, and hopefully not “fast” :eek: . (Granddaughter, ya’ know.) [/QUOTE] Oh, man, no wonder he got you off. I bet that little bugger has more moves than Atlas Van Lines, and can run through his repertoire faster than you can say “Oh shit.” My 16.1 HH TB has a helluva buck in him once in a while, but it takes _time_ to get all that mass in motion, time enough to grab leather. Granddaughter’s a cutie pie. Does he pull any of that crap with her or behave like a lamb when she’s aboard? ---
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[QUOTE=John Carter of Mars] Well, not intending to turn this into a horse-pic thread, but: [/QUOTE] Hey! Horse-pics, horses asses, still on topic enough for me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-running-commentary-on-the-9-11-movie-on-abc-tonight-live-as-we-watch/372232.md?page=5)