# A sad day for millennials: no more avocado toast **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 14, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473 "2022-02-14T17:57:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/21 "2022-02-14T21:49:30Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I’m thinking its a way to smuggle their other goods into the country, maybe? Hence telling a random inspector who takes his job a little too serious to Back The Fuck Off or wind up un-living. > > Just a thought. I have one every now and then. Certainly a possibility. On the other hand, it’s not unknown for organized crime to be involved in legal businesses as well as illicit ones. They might have wanted legit avocado farming. Or maybe they want a legit business to help with money laundering. Who knows for sure? Not me. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/22 "2022-02-14T21:50:45Z")
I have no actual idea, but I wonder if it was more of a threat based on the inspector rejecting too many avocados or something like that- I can see how criminals might not take kindly to some inspector saying that they can’t sell certain avocados, because they’re too small, or low quality, or old, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/23 "2022-02-14T21:54:37Z")
Well, like I said - this may not have come from on-high, it could be a mid-level guy getting a little too independent/uppity. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/24 "2022-02-14T22:01:44Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > The drug cartels have been getting into the avocado business. Why, I dunno - profitable legit business? I’m not doubting you a bit, but could you please provide a link so I could read more about this? I’m intrigued. Or maybe you’re referring to the drug cartels demanding protection money from farmers, as [this NPR article](https://www.npr.org/2022/02/13/1080497606/super-bowl-us-mexico-avocado-imports) says? > Many avocado growers in Michoacán say drug gangs threaten them or their family members with kidnapping or death unless they pay protection money, sometimes amounting to thousands of dollars per acre. and > The avocado ban was just the latest threat to Mexico’s export trade stemming from the government’s inability to rein in illegal activities. Or is there more to it that that? Anyway, I’d like to learn more about this, so if you happen to have a link, I’d be grateful. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/25 "2022-02-14T22:07:05Z")
I don’t have an internet link handy, sorry - I’ve been watching this with news stuff, yes, NPR’s thing, a documentary, and few other sources I’d have to hunt around for to get a link to. Don’t have time at the moment, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/26 "2022-02-14T22:21:54Z")
My dear Americans, I am sorry to be the one bringing this news to you, but avocado is actually a linguistical corruption of either the French _[avocat](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocat_(m%C3%A9tier))_ or of the Italian _[avvocato](https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avvocato)_, both meaning not the slimy fruit (when it is not hard and insipid as a raw potato) but lawyer. I can understasnd that you like to eat corrupt lawyers, not what I would do, but OK, you be you. You have too many of them anyway. On toast, of course, I get it. But the correct name for this fruit is **aguacate**. That the most commercially popular cultivar of the aguacate worldwide (and in the USA) is the [Hass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hass_avocado)-variety does not make it any better. Hass is German for hate. ---
**Author:** ![SurrenderDorothy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/surrenderdorothy/32/1221_2.png) [@SurrenderDorothy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SurrenderDorothy)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/27 "2022-02-14T22:30:59Z")
Since having my avocado toast fund freed up for more practical things, I’ve already paid off all my debt and bought a house. I think tomorrow, I’ll go ahead and have children, buy some diamonds, and perhaps stop killing the decorative plate industry. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/28 "2022-02-14T22:32:57Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > My dear Americans, I am sorry to be the one bringing this news to you, but avocado is actually a linguistical corruption of either the French _[avocat](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocat_(m%C3%A9tier))_ or of the Italian _[avvocato](https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avvocato)_ , both meaning not the slimy fruit (when it is not hard and insipid as a raw potato) but lawyer. For once the corruption was not on our part. We called it _avocado_ because that was, in fact, the Spanish word and the Spanish spelling. The alteration happened much earlier, according to [this](https://www.etymonline.com/word/avocado): edible, oily fruit of a tree common in the American tropics, 1763, from Spanish _avocado_, altered (by folk etymology influence of earlier Spanish _avocado_ “lawyer,” from same Latin source as [advocate](https://www.etymonline.com/word/advocate?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_5167) (n.)) from earlier _aguacate_, from Nahuatl (Aztecan) ahuakatl “avocado” (with a secondary meaning “testicle” probably based on resemblance), from proto-Nahuan \*pawa “avocado.” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/29 "2022-02-14T22:51:45Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > (with a secondary meaning “testicle” probably based on resemblance) OK… now they’re even less appetizing than they were before… ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/30 "2022-02-15T00:14:43Z")
> [@sitchensis](#): > > Avocados are big cartel business. If they are threatening US inspectors then that stuff needs to get shut down. This. I love avocado toast, and salad, and guac, and… Anyway, I’m willing to give it up if the price we must pay includes violence done to the inspectors. The cartels need to know that there’s a limit to bullying and violence. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/31 "2022-02-15T01:14:28Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > And apparently, this thread is quite similar to one from 2003 about [Saddam equipping terrorists with nukes in the then-immediate future](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-stop-saddam-from-giving-wmd-to-terrorists-in-the-next-two-days/162218). Sure, Discourse. Sure. Might be time to figure out what your preferred smoke is laced with? It’s things like this that convince me that AI is just a pipe dream. Hey, hey, hey! I can see going nuclear if someone takes away _my_ avocado toast! ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/32 "2022-02-15T07:59:03Z")
Maybe, but I doubt the accuracy of that site when they claim that _avocado_ is Spanish for lawyer. Spanish for lawyer is _abogado_. But the bits with the testicles and the alligator-pear are funny, so OK. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/33 "2022-02-15T08:25:14Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > We’ve been burning through 130 avocados a year since the pandemic started I’m impressed that you know exactly how many avocados you buy each year. Pre- covid, and post. Me, I can’t put a number on it… but I buy a bunch of 'em. But then, half the time they’re not ripe enough when I want 'em, so I let 'em sit on the counter top. And then the next time I want 'em, they’re over-ripe. Now, if those cartel mafia guys could grow an avocado that stays ripe when you need it, I’d gladly pay the protection money. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/34 "2022-02-15T08:38:21Z")
Having worked for the UK equivalent, what they’re mostly inspecting for is pests and diseases so they’re not accidentally imported along with the crop, industry tends to mainly take care of the grading by size or whatever. What this means is that entire batches can and will get rejected even if it’s otherwise looking perfect, because, say, someone found a specific bug listed as a quarantine pest on it, and its not feasible to check every single fruit in the 20 tonne batch for signs of larvae. So yeah, it is possible for inspections to cost someone a _lot_ of money when they weren’t expecting it. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/35 "2022-02-15T12:23:30Z")
Ugh, just when i was contemplating going back on keto. When I was on keto in the past avocados were a staple-- I know the term “superfood” is overused, but they are low in carbs and high in healthy fats so they keep away hunger and don’t raise insulin levels. They are full of fiber and have more Potassium than a banana. Plus, guacamole is frickin’ awesome. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/36 "2022-02-15T12:28:23Z")
We enjoyed an avocado on our salads last night, leaving us with three. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/37 "2022-02-15T12:35:29Z")
It doesn’t help that the lifecycle of an avocado is approximately: Date of purchase until 2 days later: Not ripe yet 20 minute window: Perfectly ripe!! 20 minute window expires: maybe I can salvage 10% of this avocado in-between the black spots… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/38 "2022-02-15T13:45:44Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Maybe, but I doubt the accuracy of that site when they claim that _avocado_ is Spanish for lawyer. Spanish for lawyer is _abogado_ Plus all my Spanish-speaking life I’ve referred to this produce as “aguacate”. No way of knowing why would some Iberian dude back in the 1700s be calling them “lawyers” (really, guys: don’t eat the moldy hardtack). ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/39 "2022-02-15T13:56:57Z")
[My words precisely](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/26), I concur. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/40 "2022-02-15T17:15:14Z")
This is going to be a huge problem for me. I’ve always got an avocado ladder going with avocados of three different purchase dates. It’ll take around 10 days or two weeks for it to empty but if I don’t start replenishing even if the shortage only lasts a couple of weeks I’ll be stuck with green as grass avocados. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473.md?page=3)