# A sad day for millennials: no more avocado toast

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 14, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473 "2022-02-14T17:57:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/41 "2022-02-15T17:23:04Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> It doesn’t help that the lifecycle of an avocado is approximately:
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> Date of purchase until 2 days later: Not ripe yet  
> 20 minute window: Perfectly ripe!!  
> 20 minute window expires: maybe I can salvage 10% of this avocado in-between the black spots…

Which is one reason I don’t buy them very often. They’re yummy, but I can never time the ripeness right and end up with ruined fruit that would’ve been fine the previous meal.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/42 "2022-02-15T17:38:41Z")

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They’ll never ripen if refrigerated, but if allowed to ripen they’ll stay ripe for a long time refrigerated. You have to keep on top of them, buying the greenest ones possible, and rotating them into the refrigerator as they ripen.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/43 "2022-02-15T17:42:01Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> They’ll never ripen if refrigerated, but if allowed to ripen they’ll stay ripe for a long time refrigerated.

You can refrigerate them after ripening to keep them fresher longer, eh? I did not know that! I guess I assumed they’re something you never refrigerate, like tomatoes, or it supposedly makes the tomatoes mealy. Does refrigeration change the avocados’ consistency or anything?

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/44 "2022-02-15T17:48:28Z")

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So the process is to let them ripen on the counter, and then once ripe sick them in the fridge straight away and that retards any further ripening / spoilage at least for a while?

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/45 "2022-02-15T17:50:54Z")

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Yes. That’s the entire job of a refrigerator: slow down chemical reactions. Like others have mentioned here, my wife and I move avocados in or out of the fridge depending on whether we need them to ripen faster or almost-not-at-all. They’ll persist for a long time in the fridge with little change to their state of ripeness.

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/46 "2022-02-15T17:54:53Z")

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I wasn’t aware of that. Assuming I can find any at a reasonable price I’ll have to try that.

I was talking about this news story with a coworker. He just laughed. He’s from the L.A. area and his sister, who still lives there, has avocado trees in her back yard. He said she’ll just hook him up. Lucky dude.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/47 "2022-02-15T17:57:16Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I just bought some California grown avocados at the farmers market last weekend, so I am good for now.

Yeah, the USA grows 200K tons a year. Although imported from Mexico avocados keep the price down, we have enough.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/48 "2022-02-15T18:12:08Z")

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Has anyone here tried making their own avocado ice cream?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/49 "2022-02-15T18:49:52Z")

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We import almost three times that amount, though.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/50 "2022-02-15T19:02:42Z")

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It wasn’t the first threat an inspector received. The US government had warned about what would happen if there were further threats.  
In another case, the US government has banned Mexican fishers from entering US waters because Mexico isn’t preventing fishers from using nets to catch fish, thereby killing endangered porpoises.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/51 "2022-02-15T19:24:15Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yeah, the USA grows 200K tons a year.

From the O.P. -

> approximately 50,000 metric tons of avocados sold in the country each month.

Now, I ain’t the best at math, but … 🤔

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/52 "2022-02-15T19:42:47Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> We import almost three times that amount, though.

Millennials will have to switch to avocado toast points.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/53 "2022-02-15T19:46:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> In another case, the US government has banned Mexican fishers from entering US waters because Mexico isn’t preventing fishers from using nets to catch fish, thereby killing endangered porpoises

Yeah, the nets defeat the whole porpoise.

I’m sorry.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/54 "2022-02-15T20:58:05Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> > [@DrDeth](#):
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> > Yeah, the USA grows 200K tons a year.
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> From the O.P. -
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> > approximately 50,000 metric tons of avocados sold in the country each month.
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> Now, I ain’t the best at math, but … 🤔

50,000 tons a month is 600k tons a year. So apparently the US grows about a third of what you need (as others have said upthread)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/55 "2022-02-15T21:42:03Z")

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Yes, and so No one is saying Mexican avocados aren’t the bulk of the market. But people are acting like there will be no avocados at all in the USA. USA avocados will be more expensive, no doubt.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/56 "2022-02-16T09:25:43Z")

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There may be some regions of the US that will be without avocados. Lord knows we’re having enough supply line issues these days.

I expect California will be adequately supplied for the simple reason they grow there. Places further away could have problems.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/57 "2022-02-16T18:42:34Z")

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Yeah, you make a point. Since I live in CA, and many have a avocado tree in their backyard, I didn’t foresee a huge shortage here. But elsewhere? Could be.

Note that the USA has only fairly recently allowed Mexican avocados in, since 1997.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/58 "2022-02-16T19:50:32Z")

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Avocados have also soared popularity in the Midwest during that time period as well. Back in the 1990’s they were seen as “exotic” in this part of the country. Now they’re in every damn thing. There’s a much higher demand for them than 30 years ago.

Again, this might not apply to California. It’s does apply to Indiana, where I live.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/59 "2022-02-16T23:46:44Z")

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Stopped at my co-op to pick up some organic veg and eggs today. No avocados in sight.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sad-day-for-millennials-no-more-avocado-toast/959473/60 "2022-02-17T00:43:50Z")

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I worry about the amazing guacamole at the local Mexican places. It tastes nothing like the stuff you buy in the stores. I didn’t know I liked guac until I had that stuff.

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