# A Scream That's Not The Wilhelm Scream

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**Created:** [February 7, 2006, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353 "2006-02-07T05:54:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/1 "2006-02-07T05:54:32Z")

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There’s a scream I hear on TV alot, and I think in a few movies, and _definitely_ in the game Starcraft (might have been Broodwar).

I don’t know how to describe it. It starts kind of with an “r” sound, then goes to an “a”-ish sound, and ends maybe with the a, maybe closed up with a “g”-ish sound. It’s long. It’s mostly rising in pitch.

The best cite I have is the Starcraft game, but unfortunately I don’t remember exactly when it happens in that game.

But I keep hearing it in battle scenes on TV.

If I hear it again, I’ll come back with further cites, but I was wondering if anyone could identify it already just with the info I have.

(By “Identify” I just mean something like “Be able to tell me truthfully, ‘No, you’re not crazy, that’s one scream sound you keep hearing in different contexts, for example, I heard it in…’”)

-Kris

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/2 "2006-02-07T06:08:19Z")

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Further information:

I now recall the following:

1. It’s the screaming sound that you hear when you click on the academy in Starcraft.

2. Taken out of context, the sound reminds me more of something like a star wars TIE fighter sound effect, but whenever I hear it, its being used as a human scream.

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/3 "2006-02-07T06:11:36Z")

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Okay, third and final post tonight, I think.

I found a discussion about the DOOM trailer which says the same sound occurs therein as well. So in a sense my question is answered–others besides me have noticed there’s this one sound that keeps getting re-used as a scream in different productions.

Wonder if anyone here has any further information about it though. Is it really a scream? Or some other sound being used as a scream? What other movies or other media contain the sound effect? And so on…

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/4 "2006-02-07T08:21:07Z")

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I definitely know what scream you’re talking about, it lasts for a good two seconds or so, right? Unfortunately I don’t have any idea how to identify it.

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**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/5 "2006-02-07T08:34:33Z")

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This question seemed really familiar to me. Then I remembered that I’d actually [asked](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=174378) it before. There’s a link to a wav in post number 30 - at least, I think that’s the one you’re asking about. Here’s hoping we get this one settled, because now I’m curious again!

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/6 "2006-02-07T08:44:48Z")

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> [@BraheSilver](#):
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> This question seemed really familiar to me. Then I remembered that I’d actually [asked](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=174378) it before. There’s a link to a wav in post number 30 - at least, I think that’s the one you’re asking about. Here’s hoping we get this one settled, because now I’m curious again!

Yes, that’s it!

I wonder where this thing originated…

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![some\_white\_dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/7 "2006-02-07T20:46:14Z")

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I’ve always wondered about that scream too. I think it’s the same one they used when Wesley is killed in the Pit of Despair in The Princess Bride, and I know for sure it’s used when some dude is thrown off a bridge in Under Siege 2: Dark Territory.

I don’t know why I’ve seen Under Siege 2, or how I know it’s subtitled Dark Territory.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/8 "2006-02-07T22:00:31Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> Wonder if anyone here has any further information about it though. Is it really a scream? Or some other sound being used as a scream?

I’d say it’s the vocalization of a young elephant seal. That’s what was used to make some of the TIE fighter sound effects.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-scream-thats-not-the-wilhelm-scream/343353/9 "2006-02-08T00:08:35Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> Further information:
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> I now recall the following:
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> 1. It’s the screaming sound that you hear when you click on the academy in Starcraft.  
> -FrL-

If it’s the same sound I’m thinking of, I believe X-Com had the same screeching when an alien was killed.  
And of course, there is my favorite, Tom’s scream from Tom & Jerry:

[AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!](http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/sounds/AHHH!1.wav)
