# A Second "Downing Street Memo" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2005, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930 "2005-06-12T03:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/161 "2005-06-20T22:34:00Z")
**jay jay** - I called him a shit a few pages back, so he may be remembering that. OTOH, he also may just be an incoherant jerk. the two are not mutually exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/162 "2005-06-20T22:46:35Z")
> [@wring](#): > > thanks, ever so. Well, look who’s being _polite_ now! **kaylasdad99** inquired on my whereabouts so he could “place his hatred for me in proper context”. I really don’t know what that means. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/163 "2005-06-20T22:51:03Z")
It sounds to me as if meaningful discussion, and even meaningful bitching, has stopped in this thread. **New Iskander** refuses to answer a question that has been repeatedly asked of him. When others ask him to please answer the question, he does not. Either he does not know the answer, or he knows he is wrong and will not admit it. So he keeps trying to ‘play dumb’. Since the discussion is over, I predict this thread will be closed in ten posts… ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/164 "2005-06-20T22:52:06Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > Well, look who’s being _polite_ now! > > **kaylasdad99** inquired on my whereabouts so he could “place his hatred for me in proper context”. I really don’t know what that means. sarcastic, dear. still no answer for the question, I see. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/165 "2005-06-20T23:29:28Z")
I’m waiting to hear from **Princhester** … ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/166 "2005-06-20T23:34:40Z")
No, you’re not. You’re lying through your teeth. I know that ‘reading comprehension’ is thrown around too often as an insult, but if you honestly [still don’t understand what the question is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6281843&postcount=154), you’ve gone beyond being functionally illiterate and into being functionally retarded. I, for one, think you’re dense, but not _that_ dense. I think you’re either a coward too afraid to admit that his argument is full of holes, or someone playing dumb in order to stir up shit. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/167 "2005-06-20T23:57:40Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > Well, look who’s being _polite_ now! > > **kaylasdad99** inquired on my whereabouts so he could “place his hatred for me in proper context”. I really don’t know what that means. The fuck I did. Let’s review the tape. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Am I incorrect in believing that you are a citizen of one of the Scandinavian nations, New Iskander? Or are you an American expatriate? I’d like to get my contempt for your positions and attitudes placed in some context. Now, I don’t like to be a prig or anything, but I must insist on a distinction between **you** and **your positions and attitudes**. I must also insist on a distinction between **contempt** and **hatred**. Please believe me when I say that if I ever want to express hatred toward you personally, I will know how to do so. Reading comprehension-challenged lackwit. Only ESL can possibly excuse this crap. Hence, my desire to know your heritage and whereabouts. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/168 "2005-06-21T00:04:27Z")
I think friend **Isk** suffers from Ayn Rand’s Syndrome, marked by such (well deserved!) contempt for Soviet crapola, he thinks that anything that isn’t them must be The Truth. Probably thinks “the Party finds _you_” is the funniest punch line ever. If only it were so. If only. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/169 "2005-06-21T00:08:00Z")
That might explain things **Luc** , but we’re talking about Sadaam and his removal… far as I can tell this has very little to do with communism. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/170 "2005-06-21T00:20:16Z")
Didn’t say it made sense, **Finn**. The truth seldom does, as I’m sure you’ve noticed. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/171 "2005-06-21T00:23:06Z")
Don’t make me whip out the Discordian catma! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/172 "2005-06-21T00:24:50Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > I’m waiting to hear from **Princhester** … What do you want to hear from me about? You want me to repeat the question? What for? I reached the conclusion you weren’t going to answer about 2 pages ago, and that is quite sufficient to make the point I wanted to make. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/173 "2005-06-21T00:30:55Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > What do you want to hear from me about? You want me to repeat the question? What for? I reached the conclusion you weren’t going to answer about 2 pages ago, and that is quite sufficient to make the point I wanted to make. Cut to the chase, **Princhester**. In post #151 at the top of this page, he is asking if **FinnAgain** ’s question is an adequate restatement of yours. Sems pretty obvious that it is, but go ahead and tell him so, so he can weasel away from it again. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/174 "2005-06-21T00:35:15Z")
I think **Luc** is referring to **New Iskander** ’s pasting that got in the last page of the thread of “Godwin for the gander - Senator Durbin shoots his fucking mouth off…” It seems that **Isk** does have issues with the former USSR. And indeed he could have trouble with English ASL, I have to say I simpathize. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/175 "2005-06-21T00:39:03Z")
What’s “simpathize”? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/176 "2005-06-21T00:44:05Z")
Its the feeling you have for someone who’s wimpathetic. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/177 "2005-06-21T00:44:30Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > What’s “simpathize”? Coward. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/178 "2005-06-21T00:52:15Z")
Well **kaylasdad99** , **FinnAgain** ’s reformulation is a similar idea, though I prefer my formulation because I’m more interested in “price” than “point”. Really, humoring **NI** by discussing reformulations etc is just playing into his hands, though, which is why I didn’t discuss this point in my last post. He’d be happy to go on talking around the question, abusing the question, enquiring about reformulations of the question etc forever. **NI** knows what the question is, his weaselling non-answers show that. He just won’t answer. And as far as I’m concerned, absent a responsive answer from him, this aspect discussion is closed. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/179 "2005-06-21T00:59:25Z")
I meant: sym·pa·thize -To share or understand the feelings or ideas of another: “sympathized with the goals of the committee”. Comrade 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930/180 "2005-06-21T01:17:04Z")
> [@Not Psychic Johnny L.A. in post#163](#): > > Since the discussion is over, I predict this thread will be closed in ten posts… Hah! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-second-downing-street-memo/307930.md?page=10)