# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 111
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2201 "2024-02-24T00:13:11Z")
I’da tossed in a ‘You’re done’ 'cause I really like callbacks. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2202 "2024-02-24T00:35:50Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > Nobody I knew called it Teleconferencing then, you muppet. > > OK, the right thing to do here is admit you were wrong - evidently some people called text chatting “teleconferencing” back in the day. Set an example for ol’ Sammy and show him how to actually admit a mistake. Indeed you are correct. Apparently some people did call a text BB system “teleconferencing” I sure didn’t hear anyone use that term back in the day. Apparently I am wrong, and I apologize to Sam Stone unreservedly. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2203 "2024-02-24T00:43:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Apparently I am wrong, and I apologize to Sam Stone unreservedly. Attaboy. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2204 "2024-02-24T00:57:16Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > We all believe that some parts of the stories you told are true. Just not the parts that are convenient to your deranged narrative. Sharing out more details that could be shown to be possible does not negate the fact that you made up some other details. It’s all true. You are calling me a liar with zero evidence. Prove it, or apologize. You say ‘it’s a fact’. That means you have evidence. Cough it up, or you are a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2205 "2024-02-24T00:58:06Z")
He could still be 100% correct-He didn’t say nobody called it that-He said he didn’t _know_ anybody that called it that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2206 "2024-02-24T01:01:50Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > It’s not actually Braille, which uses a six-dot base “⠿”. This encoding is using an eight-dot base “⣿”. [There are also 8-dot versions of Braille](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille): > Braille has been extended to an [8-dot code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_Patterns), particularly for use with braille embossers and refreshable braille displays. In 8-dot braille the additional dots are added at the bottom of the cell, giving a matrix 4 dots high by 2 dots wide. The additional dots are given the numbers 7 (for the lower-left dot) and 8 (for the lower-right dot). Eight-dot braille has the advantages that the case of an individual letter is directly coded in the cell containing the letter and that all the printable [ASCII](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII) characters can be represented in a single cell. All 256 (28) possible combinations of 8 dots are encoded by the [Unicode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode) standard. Braille with six dots is frequently stored as [Braille ASCII](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_ASCII). ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2207 "2024-02-24T01:06:11Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > No, that was the case made for it when we were debating whether we needed a pit or not. It was deemed crucial in the fight against racism and sexism. Fair enough, will you denounce the racist fascist that told you to think that the WEF was fascist? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2208 "2024-02-24T01:22:01Z")
I said the WEF is closer to fascism than socialism, but actually more like techno-authoritarianism, to AGREE WITH the rest of the people saying that the right is stupid to think it’s socialism. Retract what you said and apologize, or you’re a liar. Hey, I think I’m getting the hang of this. The same people that try to elevate slight errors to MAJOR LIES, constantly read into my posts the opposite of what I said, because they just assume what I’m going to say based on their assumptions. Then they argue against a straw man, the usual suspects join in also without bothering to read what I actually wrote, and the party goes on. Like all the people here joining in on the teleconference smear, none of whom know anything about the subject and maybe weren’t even alive then. But they were so sure I needed to be dragged for ‘lying’ that they joined in on the ‘gotcha’. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2209 "2024-02-24T01:24:07Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I said the WEF is closer to fascism than socialism, but actually more like techno-authoritarianism, to AGREE WITH the rest of the people saying that the right is stupid to think it’s socialism. Retract what you said and apologize, or you’re a liar. > > Hey, I think I’m getting the hang of this. Nope, you are sounding more stupid, will you denounce your fascist and racist source? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2210 "2024-02-24T01:27:42Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Like all the people here joining in on the teleconference smear, none of whom know anything about the subject and maybe weren’t even alive then. But they were so sure I needed to be dragged for ‘lying’ that they joined in on the ‘gotcha’. Actually, I thought your pressing on the differences of how you met your wife are not important, really; but you are willing to continue to exaggerate about that because that issue is a distraction to the important one, that is, finding that your feed is not really “scientific”. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2211 "2024-02-24T01:32:13Z")
I haven’t exaggerated a damned thing. If i wanted to brag about my family I could tell you a hell of a lot more. Again, you keep making categorical statements about me without evidence. I guess I’ll assume you are a habitual liar. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2212 "2024-02-24T01:32:56Z")
I also have to say: you said that: “I said the WEF is closer to fascism than socialism” ok. the item stands, not being aware of how you were manipulated by a fascist racist **seems to be not important at all to you**. Meaning that you will continue to look for reprehensible sources like that one, in the end one should realize that the WEF is not even closer to fascism. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2213 "2024-02-24T01:33:21Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I said the WEF is closer to fascism than socialism, but actually more like techno-authoritarianism, to AGREE WITH the rest of the people saying that the right is stupid to think it’s socialism. Which read as ‘The right is correct about the WEF, but for the wrong reasons!’ . . . and that’s not AGREEING WITH the rest of the people saying that the right is stupid about this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2214 "2024-02-24T01:34:55Z")
Who was the fascist racist that manipulated me? You’re making a claim of fact. Identify the person, or retract that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2215 "2024-02-24T01:40:25Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Who was the fascist racist that manipulated me? That would be the right-wing sources that you read but do not browse. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2216 "2024-02-24T01:40:26Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Who was the fascist racist that manipulated me? You’re making a claim of fact. Identify the person, or retract that. I didn’t make the claim you numb-nuts. > [@A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2056): > > Honestly, just an incredible moment for this site that Sam managed to utter these two statements within 3 hours of each other. Sam is widdle old innocent that has never actively looked for right wing content and it just keeps on gosh darn appearing in his feed where he has no choice but to consume and then actively spread it. At the same time, he’s consumed so much Richard Hanania content that it’s plausible to him that this would have been the source for his claim and, of course, Richard Han… Just another example of you not paying attention or willfully ignoring what others notice from your “ponderings” “Widdle old innocent” indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2217 "2024-02-24T01:43:51Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Who was the fascist racist that manipulated me? [![](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/12/121018-elon-musk-1.jpg) ](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/12/121018-elon-musk-1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2218 "2024-02-24T01:45:27Z")
I have no idea what you are talking about. I had no idea Richard Hanania was a ‘right wing’ commentartor. And anyway, if he’s a right wing commentator he wouldn’t have been saying that at the WEF. I may have confused him with Yuval Harari, who has spoken at WEF several times. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2219 "2024-02-24T01:46:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > It’s not actually Braille, which uses a six-dot base “⠿”. This encoding is using an eight-dot base “⣿”. > > [There are also 8-dot versions of Braille](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille): > > > Braille has been extended to an [8-dot code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_Patterns), particularly for use with braille embossers and refreshable braille displays. In 8-dot braille the additional dots are added at the bottom of the cell, giving a matrix 4 dots high by 2 dots wide. The additional dots are given the numbers 7 (for the lower-left dot) and 8 (for the lower-right dot). Eight-dot braille has the advantages that the case of an individual letter is directly coded in the cell containing the letter and that all the printable [ASCII](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII) characters can be represented in a single cell. All 256 (28) possible combinations of 8 dots are encoded by the [Unicode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode) standard. Braille with six dots is frequently stored as [Braille ASCII](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_ASCII). Wow, kids these days with their extra dots. Why, when I was in school we only had four, unless our onions were properly knotted. (Thanks, I didn’t know they’d extended the system. Makes perfect sense, too. See, it _is_ possible to learn something in the Pit.) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2220 "2024-02-24T01:47:40Z")
That too, but we are focusing on Richard Hanania here, baby steps, you know. The reasoning here is simple, not denouncing him would lead Sam to also realize that what he “thought” about the WEF was not true. But, what is impossible to contemplate by the Sam man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=110) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=112)