# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2221 "2024-02-24T01:50:40Z")
I don’t even know the guy. I’ve just seen his name in passing enough times to conflate him with someone else. I have mo idea what his positions on anything are. But then, you’ve already established yourself as a serial liar in this thread, so I shouldn’t be surprised that you’d keep embellishing your bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2222 "2024-02-24T02:01:50Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I have no idea what you are talking about. I had no idea Richard Hanania was a ‘right wing’ commentartor. And anyway, if he’s a right wing commentator he wouldn’t have been saying that at the WEF. More pathetic gaslight, it was you who pointed at him and others looked further, it is more likely, as many who are misled like you, that you got the “fascist” spin from guys like him about what to think about the WEF. Link posted already by @Shalmanese : > **[Richard Hanania’s Chilling Normality](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/richard-hanania-racist-message.html)** > > The revealing case of the anti-woke crusader. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2223 "2024-02-24T02:07:23Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I don’t even know the guy. I’ve just seen his name in passing enough times to conflate him with someone else. I have mo idea what his positions on anything are. > > But then, you’ve already established yourself as a serial liar in this thread, so I shouldn’t be surprised that you’d keep embellishing your bullshit. That was what you posted you numbnuts. The bullshit is yours for not learning how they manipulate you. What you said can’t be corrected just by [being childish about others noticing what you post.](https://www.etsy.com/market/gaf_viewmaster_projector) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2224 "2024-02-24T02:10:32Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I don’t even know the guy. I’ve just seen his name in passing enough times to conflate him with someone else. I have mo idea what his positions on anything are. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The video I remember was possibly Richard Hanania talking about it, or maybe someone else. The WEF does not make searching videos easy, and then tend to take videos down, change the names of articles, etc. as they get heat from the public. If you don’t even know the guy or what his positions on anything are, then why were you searching the WEF for a video with him in it? ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2225 "2024-02-24T02:18:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > He could still be 100% correct-He didn’t say nobody called it that-He said he didn’t _know_ anybody that called it that. And that cite doesn’t exactly say it was called Teleconferencing back then. It refers to it that way, but it could just be putting it into terms people understand today. Perhaps that’s why there is (chat rooms) next to it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2226 "2024-02-24T02:29:49Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > If you don’t even know the guy or what his positions on anything are, then why were you searching the WEF for a video with him in it? Darn it **crowmanyclouds** , that was going to be my follow up question after his predictable next gaslighting post. Shakes ✊, 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2227 "2024-02-24T02:33:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Apparently some people did call a text BB system “teleconferencing” I sure didn’t hear anyone use that term back in the day. > Apparently I am wrong, and I apologize to Sam Stone unreservedly. I don’t know, is Sammy in earshot to hear your apology in this teleconference? You’ll be able to tell when you see him perk up and act like you’ve been lifelong friends. It’s just kind of curious that Sammy is going all out defending his use of the word teleconferencing while ignoring the actual issue of his wife being in earshot and perking up in a text format. I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2228 "2024-02-24T02:35:15Z")
He’s furiously researching the capabilities of various technologies from 35 years ago, working up a plausible (to Honeybadger, at least) explanation ETA: Ugh! Replied to wrong post again! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2229 "2024-02-24T02:39:54Z")
Yeah, but regardless if I think that item is small horse fly shit, the more important huge ignorant horse shit from Sam is not being paid attention to, and going forward, that is very important. It is clear to me that Sam wants the discussion to continue going that way about standing against bullies. As a tech guy, he can bullshit about that very well. The only item I can see as important, is to notice how far he has fallen: from going against bullies, to being a follower of them, like a good stooge. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2230 "2024-02-24T03:26:58Z")
The other curious thing is where has one seen his name in passing that didn’t mention Hanania’s abhorrent views? That this also calls into question Sam’s self reporting on his browsing habits. I might be wrong, but I doubt that Hanania is big in ‘science papers, mostly on astronomy, astrophysics, and AI stuff’. Maybe something about the superiority of White Dwarves as opposed to Black Holes? Ya know, because Hanania’s a fucking racist. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2231 "2024-02-24T18:09:15Z")
I wasn’t searching for Hanania. I was searching for Klaus Schwab saying something. I have already explained that, so you are lying. I thought he had said it in a video that the WEF had taken down, but it turns out it was someone else saying it. I speculated it might have been someone like Richard Hanania, since that name just popped into my head when I was thinking about the video. Then I thought, no, maybe Yuval Harari. Very different people with similar names. That’s how much I actually know about them. That’s it. And you idiots have now continued to lie to make all this sound much more simister than it is, that Hanania is my Fascist Guru or something. You know it isn’t true, but you throw the smear at me anyway for yucks and it’s pathetic. Liars. And I don’t have to look up tech from 35 years ago, because I lived it and worked in it, unlike most of you lying, hateful ankle biters. And yes, everyone who used those systems called it the toeconference. I could show you the ads I made for our systems back in the day, but I’d have to out myself and risk some spittle-flecked moron trying to SWAT my family or egg my house or something. Because you present as people who would stoop that low. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2232 "2024-02-24T18:20:27Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If Walter Bishop, or What Exit, or Manda Jo, or Babale, or The Other Waldo Pepper, or damn near anyone else on the board made this claim, I’d be inclined to believe them. Even people I disagree with–even people that I think are basically sociopaths who shouldn’t be let out in public I really need to know what category I’m being classified as? Holy Shit. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2233 "2024-02-24T18:24:27Z")
The Straight Dope Message Board; sociopaths who shouldn’t be let out in public who are fighting ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2234 "2024-02-24T18:43:02Z")
Shit, sorry–just a bunch of Dopers across the spectrum of Dopers whose names occurred to me and whom I respect not to lie. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2235 "2024-02-24T18:45:17Z")
LOL, OK cool. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2236 "2024-02-24T18:58:03Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The WEF does not make searching videos easy, and then tend to take videos down, change the names of articles, etc. as they get heat from the public. Is any of this true? Is this something you have observed and can provide evidence of or is it something you half remember Richard Hanania (or maybe Yuval Harari) saying in a video? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2237 "2024-02-24T19:00:26Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > everyone who used those systems called it the toeconference You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but… you lie, you tell the truth, but you cannot for you l… Illogical! Illogical! Please explain! You are human! Only humans can explain their behavior! Please explain! ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2238 "2024-02-24T19:12:59Z")
There are two examples in that very thread: A viedo that the WEF took down because it was controversial, and an article with a controversial title changed to a more mundane one. I provided links to the before and after version of that article. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2239 "2024-02-24T19:14:00Z")
A lie is a flower that looks pretty, but smells very bad. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2240 "2024-02-24T19:20:52Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > made for our systems back in the day, but I’d have to out myself and risk some spittle-flecked moron trying to SWAT my family or egg my house or something. Because you present as people who would stoop that low. Actually that shows that you knew who Richard Hanania was. Just your reprehensible influencer that just by “coincidence” has ranted about the WEF. You project what guys like that would like to do, there could be nothing more sad from someone that claims to be against bulling, because why accuse a group of being bullies of the world based on what bullies report on your “scientific” feed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=111) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=113)