# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2281 "2024-02-28T16:29:17Z")

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Sam’s been pitted many times during his tenure here, and (I believe) always for the same behavior. He gets points for consistency, at least.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2282 "2024-03-13T04:22:13Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Y’all will be glad to know that Sam’s son violating the rules of this board was a Russian disinformation plot by Yakoff Smirnov.

In Soviet Russia bad jokes tell Yakoff Smirnov!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2283 "2024-04-02T23:34:55Z")

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Now in the thread about Ought public Libraries advance social agendas in IMHO, Sam shows that he has no clue about what Equality and Equality means, compounding that, he has no clue about what DEI trainers talk about Equity and diversity in their trainings.

> [@Ought public libraries advance social agendas?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ought-public-libraries-advance-social-agendas/999737/56):
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> > [@Ought public libraries advance social agendas?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ought-public-libraries-advance-social-agendas/999737/53):
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> > No, I was describing what the trainers say. So the people in the thread saying that the left just wants ‘equality’ are wrong.
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> Full stop, I just got the training at work, what you say here is not even an educated guess. There is a better place to point this out.

And of course, seeing someone that has firsthand knowledge about what one is talking about, was enough for Sam to remember how he is being modded about hijacking threads. In this case I don’t see that much as a hijack, just Sam trying to find an excuse to not find how wrong he is…  
Again…

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2284 "2024-04-03T00:18:53Z")

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One of his problems is that he still somehow believes that US conservatives are acting in good faith when they use terms like DEI. What they really mean is n-word – just look at how they somehow blamed the bridge collapse on DEI, oh, and the Maryland governor just happens to be Black, as is the mayor. What are the chances??

Sometimes, they probably mean women in charge of anything.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2285 "2024-04-03T00:20:37Z")

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That’s what Sam means when he uses it too.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2286 "2024-04-03T00:21:22Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> One of his problems is that he still somehow believes that US conservatives are acting in good faith when they use terms like DEI.

Also assumes good faith on Sam\_Stone’s side, which is NOT in evidence your honor!

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2287 "2024-04-03T00:22:45Z")

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Eh, I’ve never noticed him to be outright racist, just in the thrall of American conservatives for some baffling reason. You’d think he’d steer clear of that up in Canada.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2288 "2024-04-03T00:27:35Z")

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He’s been radicalized. He’s not very subtle about it.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2289 "2024-04-03T00:28:09Z")

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Well, that’s true. I’m really not interested in defending him any further.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2290 "2024-04-03T00:39:21Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Eh, I’ve never noticed him to be outright racist, just in the thrall of American conservatives for some baffling reason. You’d think he’d steer clear of that up in Canada.

“Up in Canada” is a generalization that [doesn’t fit Alberta](https://jacobin.com/2023/05/take-back-alberta-canada-far-right-david-parker) all that well.

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**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2291 "2024-04-03T01:43:33Z")

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That’s what happens when you elect Sarah Palin’s failed clone as Premier.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2292 "2024-04-03T02:35:14Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> You’d think he’d steer clear of that up in Canada.

A certain element in Canada uses the same bullshit excuse as the y’allgueda lost cause worshippers in America do to proudly display the confederate rag. And, yes, it’s pure racism.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2293 "2024-04-03T07:21:27Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “Up in Canada” is a generalization that [doesn’t fit Alberta](https://jacobin.com/2023/05/take-back-alberta-canada-far-right-david-parker) all that well.

I’ve never been to Alberta but it just makes me think of two folks named Al and Berta sitting on chairs on a porch drinking Molson lagers.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2294 "2024-04-03T18:00:10Z")

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**Announcement in ATMB:**

> [@Suspension of 7 days for Sam Stone, again hijacking threads](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suspension-of-7-days-for-sam-stone-again-hijacking-threads/999783):
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> @Sam_Stone is being suspended for a pattern of frequently hijacking discussions. He has accrued 6 formal warnings in the last 3 years for hijacking, plus more than 20 mod notes. In order to retain his posting privileges when he returns, Sam will have to be alert to the topic and forum he is posting in. We’ve been very patient with @Sam_Stone, but that patience is running very thin now. When he returns, he has to be diligent to avoid hijacks. Especially in FQ, GD, P&E, ATMB, #breaking-news and to…

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2295 "2024-04-03T18:10:49Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Sam shows that he has no clue about what Equality and Equality means,

🤦‍♂️

Equality and Equity, I mean.

And yes, Thanks for the Moderation @What_Exit. 🙇🏽‍♂️

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2296 "2024-04-03T18:26:43Z")

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Seems like this one can be closed, even if just for a week… it’s only fair, as Sam can’t respond.

Would like to note that the ATMB thread above didn’t mention that weirdness with his ‘son’, where the SDMB mods gave Sam a pass for the sins of his kid, a pass Sam could never grant Joe Biden.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2297 "2024-04-03T18:41:53Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Seems like this one can be closed, even if just for a week… it’s only fair, as Sam can’t respond

We’ve only done that where the suspension was a month, and it was just the one time.

The son snafu never came up in this discussion. This is about his inability to not hijack threads more than almost anyone posting of the SDMB. Even in threads where he was already modnoted for such.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2298 "2024-04-03T18:55:24Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Seems like this one can be closed, even if just for a week… it’s only fair, as Sam can’t respond.

Just to be clear, I didn’t send notes to the moderators regarding Sam, I think I haven’t done so in years, so Sam had others making notes about him to the mods.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2299 "2024-04-03T19:03:56Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Seems like this one can be closed, even if just for a week… it’s only fair, as Sam can’t respond.

I’d like to think that even Sam’s harshest critics have the self-control to lay off for a week. Perhaps you don’t share my optimism. 😉

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/2300 "2024-04-03T19:12:16Z")

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Lol, I didn’t even have the self-control to last the remainder of that post!

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