# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/401 "2022-10-19T22:47:28Z")

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It would seem to be all your’n. They do have poopaganda, but that sounds so much less, uh, um, _elegant_.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/402 "2022-10-21T10:53:14Z")

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I’m sure the “w” was in error:

> [@Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24/960037/9941):
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> I have not heard this - could you provide further information? Ok, in order to keep things TRUE, we can say that there are NO huge anti-nato / anti-EU protests throughout Eur. let’s not create false-flags here …

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/403 "2022-10-21T11:06:04Z")

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There have been _some_ anti-NATO protests in Europe this year, but they seem to have a strong pro-Russia theme to them for reasons I couldn’t possibly speculate on. It’s certainly not a big grassroots thing.

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**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/404 "2022-10-21T11:19:10Z")

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Yes, a few and not huge.  
I found that there are several youtube videos with exactly @Sam_Stone 's word choise in the title. I guess they are Russian propaganda, for I have certainly not seen anything in the news.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/405 "2022-10-21T11:29:51Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> You make a lot of factual errors on this site.

I’ve learned many things at this site from many intelligent people, and I’ve seen many statements of “fact” challenged and debunked by those same intelligent people. Cites are expected when claims of fact are made, and that is so people can check and challenge more easily.

You have an aura of superiority about you. Frankly, I get the distinct feeling that it is undeserved.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/406 "2022-10-21T11:38:48Z")

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Are you talking about Sam or BKB? Genuinely not sure.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/407 "2022-10-21T11:41:33Z")

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I was responding to the quote I listed from BKB. Sorry I was unclear! 🙂

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/408 "2022-10-21T13:33:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> There have been _some_ anti-NATO protests in Europe this year, but they seem to have a strong pro-Russia theme to them for reasons I couldn’t possibly speculate on. It’s certainly not a big grassroots thing.

In Norway there has been some kneejerk anti-NATO Russia apologetics in the furthest red and anti-NATO wings, but the larger socialist party has finally removed replacing NATO with a Nordic defense union from their platform.

And no protests of mentionable size.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/409 "2022-10-21T15:37:21Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> I was responding to the quote I listed from BKB. Sorry I was unclear!

Interestingly, you criticized BeepKillBeep for stating that Sam Stone makes a lot of factual errors on this site… Right after it was pointed out that Sam made yet another factual error with no citation.

Good timing /s

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/410 "2022-10-21T15:40:53Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Interestingly, you criticized BeepKillBeep for stating that Sam Stone makes a lot of factual errors on this site…

Actually, I wasn’t because I didn’t connect the thread title with this:

> You make a lot of factual errors on this site. I’m not going to list them.

I thought he meant “you” in the plural sense, as in ALL of us. Again, mea culpa. LOL

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/411 "2022-10-21T15:42:04Z")

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ahhhh. Never mind!

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/412 "2022-10-21T15:49:10Z")

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Don’t be grumpy. It’s Friday! 🕶

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/413 "2022-10-21T15:57:25Z")

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“Ahhhh” as in “enlightened noise”, not as in “grumpy frustration”

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/414 "2022-10-21T15:58:28Z")

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Yay! LOL

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/415 "2022-10-21T17:01:32Z")

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It’s Find Fault Friday!

🥳

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/416 "2022-11-10T19:49:34Z")

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> [@Cast your bets! How long will my 'Beto for Gov' sign remain in my S Texas yard?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cast-your-bets-how-long-will-my-beto-for-gov-sign-remain-in-my-s-texas-yard/958191/55):
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> So did the fact that your sign survived against your expectations change your opinion about your Republican neighbors?

Sam wants to know if new facts changed @JohnT 's political opinion.

Hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/417 "2022-11-10T20:29:06Z")

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If there wasn’t something there, @JohnT wouldn’t have been asking questions in the first place, after all. I mean, we have the sign. We have the yard. How can we be sure Republicans didn’t steal a yard sign? I’m going to wait until the evidence is finally analyzed before jumping to any biased partisan conclusions about sign tampering.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/418 "2023-01-17T01:10:48Z")

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And now in the thread about the classified docs in Biden’s private office in P&E @Sam_Stone has misrepresented the facts in a way that I don’t see as any different than flat out lying. The post in question is [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classified-documents-found-in-biden-private-office-in-november-2022-january-9-2023/977945/133). Each of the “examples” he offers are far more egregious and intentional than what we currently know about the Biden situation. In particular the first one he offers concerning Elizabeth Jo Shirley who was sentenced to 97 months in prison is seriously bullshit and to me shows he is either a fucking moron who can’t comprehend what he is reading or is a dishonest, lying sack of shit.

@Lance_Turbo does an excellent job pointing out the dishonesty in his repsonse [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classified-documents-found-in-biden-private-office-in-november-2022-january-9-2023/977945/190).

This guy needs to seriously fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/419 "2023-01-17T01:12:22Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> he is either a fucking moron who can’t comprehend what he is reading or is a dishonest, lying sack of shit.

He’s not a moron.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/420 "2023-01-17T01:32:39Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> He’s not a moron

his mental function is less than stellar

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