# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/581 "2023-02-01T13:48:00Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > > > It’s pretty shocking that you’re so unfamiliar with it. > > it’s called “deliberate ignorance”. It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ~~salary~~ entire worldview depends on his not understanding it ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/582 "2023-02-01T16:23:26Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The Hamilton 68 was cooked up to back up the claims of Russian interference. What other evidence was there? I really can’t get past this. @Sam_Stone, do you really believe that the only evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 election is Hamilton 68? When did you start believing that? This is just so out there that I am mildly obsessed with it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/583 "2023-02-01T16:34:18Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > This is just so out there that I am mildly obsessed with it. It really does sum up Sam’s schtick: Desperately grabbing onto a flimsy straw of evidence, hoping that everyone will forget the massive pile of bullshit that preceded it, and focus on this new thing. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/584 "2023-02-01T16:37:13Z")
He’s not going to give you a response as long as you keep hooking car batteries up to his delicate bits. Wait, sorry–he sees no reason to be thrown in the dungeon and repeatedly tortured with thumbscrews. Was that too harsh? Come on, you can’t expect him to answer you civilly if you insist on arresting him and his family and sending them to the rice paddies for re-education which will actually mean being worked to death. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/585 "2023-02-01T16:41:15Z")
Hey, look at all the kernels of corn. And you said it was just an inedible pile of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/586 "2023-02-01T18:20:31Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Hey, look at all the kernels of corn. They’re actually just hulls of the kernels, completely empty and lacking any real substance. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/587 "2023-02-08T03:41:37Z")
His namesake lives in Arizona. The guy brags that he changes himself depending on what he thinks a voter wants. Every time I hear about this SS, the face is I see is Arizona’s SS. I just brought it up because Arizona’s SS has come back up in the news over his dishonest campaigning. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/588 "2023-02-08T03:44:34Z")
Can you enlighten us non AZ folk what the heck you’re talking about? Thanks. “Arizona SS” nets me this > **[SS Arizona](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Arizona)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > The Arizona was a record breaking British passenger liner that was the first of the Guion Line's Atlantic Greyhounds on the Liverpool-Queenstown-New York route. One nautical historian called Arizona "a souped up transatlantic hot rod." Entering service in 1879, she was the prototype for Atlantic express liners until the Inman Line introduced its twin screw City of New York in 1889. The Arizona type liner is generally considered as unsuccessful... ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/589 "2023-02-08T03:47:59Z")
Sorry, too lazy to keep typing Sam Stone over and over. This article is paywalled, but here’s a nice bite that explains why he so reminds me of the SS who is the subject of this thread. Stone is running to represent Phoenix’s District 6, encompassing north-central Phoenix, Arcadia, the Biltmore area and Ahwatukee. It’s a diverse region, so Stone has to thread a political needle, maneuvering through a politically mixed electorate as a candidate tied to controversial Republicans. To win, he must maintain support from conservatives and attract as many independents as possible. It wouldn’t hurt to earn votes from a few Democrats, too. -imbedded pic that couldn’t be posted- “My job as a candidate is to present who I am as it appeals to them,” Stone said, reflecting on canvassing. . ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/590 "2023-02-08T05:31:00Z")
I see what I think is the paywalled article you’re referencing but this article doesn’t seem to be paywalled. > **[Could Sam Stone beat the odds and win a Phoenix City Council seat?](https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/abekwok/2023/01/25/sam-stone-beat-odds-win-phoenix-city-council/69837778007/)** > > Phoenix's District 6 race pits a newbie fronted by powerful Democrats against a policy wonk fresh off a stint as policy adviser to Kari Lake. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/591 "2023-02-08T23:59:48Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > His namesake lives in Arizona. His actual namesake was a [character in a song](https://youtu.be/OLVWEYUqGew), _Sam Stone was alone_ _When he popped his last balloon_ _Climbing walls while sitting in a chair_ … _There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes_ … ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/592 "2023-02-09T00:06:28Z")
Thank you, I did know that…but when reading about two weasels with the same name in the same hour makes it easy to get confused. Specially cause I tend to get stoned before reading the news…or Pit. It is too depressing otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/593 "2023-02-09T18:06:55Z")
RIP John Prine ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/594 "2023-02-09T18:55:20Z")
I heard he got to the pearly gates but they would not let him in because his flag decal was rejected. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/595 "2023-02-09T19:24:05Z")
That’s ok, he’s somewhere floating on the Green river rolling up to the Rochester Dam, with Paradise waiting… ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/596 "2023-02-09T20:31:16Z")
This might be a good time for an illegal smile. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/597 "2023-02-12T12:00:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@k9bfriender](#): > > > > Hey, look at all the kernels of corn. > > They’re actually just hulls of the kernels, completely empty and lacking any real substance. The fact that they persist in being shaped like full kernels instead of collapsed cellulose sacs leads me to suspect that, far from being empty, they are actually filled with the fecal material in which they are embedded. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/598 "2023-02-12T12:17:27Z")
But still edible. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/599 "2023-02-12T18:06:50Z")
Eww. I’m gonna guess that you didn’t read my post, just above yours. Otherwise, _EEEEWWWWWWW!_ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/600 "2023-02-12T18:24:38Z")
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