# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1281 "2023-12-13T23:57:02Z")
Google’s servers are probably melting down with search requests from Sam right now. I can’t wait to see which links he didn’t actually comprehend beyond the title. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1282 "2023-12-13T23:58:14Z")
Same shit, different day. We should just let him kill the Biden impeachment thread. That’ll really hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1283 "2023-12-14T00:37:51Z")
What public position of trust or special skill did Hunter Biden abuse? AFAIK, being a politician’s child is neither a public postion of trust nor a special skill, as much as Tan the Conman and his ~~k~~ clan pretend it to be. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1284 "2023-12-14T01:21:01Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > When I see a Sam post, I just stop reading the thread because it will be dead for a day or two while people beat their head against a wall. I’ve long thought we should have tags for threads, or even parantheticals after the title, that can warn people off: # I’ll bet Jill Biden Has A Laptop, Too! **(Warning: Sam Shitshow after post 99)** It would work for other threads as well, with labels like “( **Devolved into cow puns from post 99 to 188** )” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1285 "2023-12-14T01:39:33Z")
You forgot **“(Recipes from post 4000 to 6000)”**. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1286 "2023-12-14T02:32:53Z")
I’d almost feel bad for Sam about being hounded over his claims in the Biden impeachment thread if it wasn’t for the fact that Sam has posted lies and misrepresented cites dozens of times (at least) in the past. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. After a while unless he shows you an actual wolf, you’re not going to believe him. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1287 "2023-12-14T02:36:30Z")
Everytime the shitstain known as @Sam_Stone starts destroying a thread with his lies, dishonesty and failure to provide accurate citations from non-biased sources, much as he is currently doing in the Biden Impeachment thread, I have to shake my head and wonder why people continue to engage with him. I also find myself wondering just how long I or any other poster could get away with such obvious trollery before the mods took serious action and either suspended or banned the guilty party. It is one of the more baffling things about The Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1288 "2023-12-14T02:56:23Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Everytime the shitstain known as @Sam_Stone starts destroying a thread with his lies, dishonesty and failure to provide accurate citations from non-biased sources, much as he is currently doing in the Biden Impeachment thread, I have to shake my head and wonder why people continue to engage with him. Fighting ignorance is the point of this site. Even willful ignorance. I’d like to think that people learn from the debunking, which makes it worth the effort. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1289 "2023-12-14T03:16:32Z")
I think people should tell me what my latest LIE was. I mean, I’m not the one that’s been saying “almost no one goes to jail for tax evasion”, or “There’s not a shred of evidence connecting Joe Biden to Huner’s business dealings.” THOSE are ‘lies’. Except I wouldn’ accuse anyone of that here, because i’s the DNC lying, and some of you just habitually parrot whatever they say. Then call me a liar when I call it out. So much fun. Also, I don’t casually accuse people of lying when I disagree with hem, because I’m not an asshole. Oh, and by the way, THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP WAS REAL, and the people who hounded me for a year on this board for saying it MIGHT be real owe me an apology. Which will never come. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1290 "2023-12-14T03:16:46Z")
I have exactly zero posters on “ignore.” This evening, I am as close as I’ve ever been. Wow. Hi, Sam!! ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1291 "2023-12-14T03:21:39Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > He’s Hunter Biden. He had a laptop. What more could you possibly need? > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Oh, and by the way, THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP WAS REAL, See? How was that supper, Sammy? I don’t care, just need the 5-character limit. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1292 "2023-12-14T03:21:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > “There’s not a shred of evidence connecting Joe Biden to Huner’s business dealings.” > > THOSE are ‘lies’. It would be nice if you could provide some evidence that the connections to ~~Huner’s~~ Hunter’s business were actually substantial as opposed to what you’ve been shoveling smoke and mirrors that you, and others, claim is a raging bonfire. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1293 "2023-12-14T03:23:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Fighting ignorance is the point of this site. Even willful ignorance. > > I’d like to think that people learn from the debunking, which makes it worth the effort. Agreed, people can learn from debunking. The problem is that @Sam_Stone isn’t a normal, ignorant person. He’s a TROLL and has demonstrated it over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1294 "2023-12-14T03:26:12Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Agreed, people can learn from debunking. Yeah, I think Atamasama’s point was that other readers can learn something from an informative debunking, whether or not the debunked party learns from it. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1295 "2023-12-14T03:28:42Z")
I agree with your point but can’t the debunking be done without responding directly to the party being debunked? Pointing out inaccurate information can be done without engaging with the Stone Troll. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1296 "2023-12-14T03:31:06Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I mean, I’m not the one that’s been saying “almost no one goes to jail for tax evasion”, No-You are the one that deliberately and repeatedly leaves out the part where Hunter Biden paid the money back, you lying shitstain. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1297 "2023-12-14T03:31:22Z")
He is truly the living embodiment of [**Brandolini’s Law**](https://modelthinkers.com/mental-model/bullshit-asymmetry-principle): > The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle, also known as Brandolini’s Law, states that the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1298 "2023-12-14T03:33:48Z")
The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle? To be fair it was a very large dinner. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1299 "2023-12-14T03:33:49Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Oh, and by the way, THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP WAS REAL, and the people who hounded me for a year on this board for saying it MIGHT be real owe me an apology. Which will never come. Holy shitstain on a manure shovel, are _you_ for real?? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1300 "2023-12-14T03:36:39Z")
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