# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1361 "2023-12-14T20:31:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > For a moment there, I though you’d confused me with **Kimstu** , then I remembered Monty Hall from _Let’s Make a Deal_. Heh. I should have considered your presence in the thread and been more clear in my ancient media trope! ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1362 "2023-12-14T20:49:27Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > No, you didn’t and that you think what you cited is evidence that Joe had anything, that actually matters, to do with Hunter’s business is the problem. I don’t think you understand the mening of the word ‘evidence’. Evidence is not proof. Evidence can be weak or strong, circumstantial or empirical. Evidence needed to start an investigation is not the sme as the evidence needed to convict. I have said nothing about Hunter’s guilt, or Joe’s guilt. I have been outlining the evidence used to justify an inquiry. And there is plenty of that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1363 "2023-12-14T20:53:07Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I’ve corrected many errors on this board, both political and not. Your own? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1364 "2023-12-14T20:55:09Z")
Evidence _you_ would accept, and that bar seems to be buried in the Mariana Trench. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1365 "2023-12-14T20:55:58Z")
There’s plenty more evidence that this was ordered by Trump under the threat of unleashing the MAGA lunatics on any Republican that doesn’t follow his orders as revenge for his completely justified impeachments. Way more evidence for that, than for … what is the exact crime that Biden is being accused of again? I still don’t think they’ve ever specified that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1366 "2023-12-14T20:57:21Z")
Not handing over the Presidency to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1367 "2023-12-14T20:57:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I have been outlining the evidence used to justify an inquiry. And there is plenty of that. No you haven’t, you’ve been repeating GOP lies. There’s no actual evidence. Haven’t you read the responses? The GOP is lying about the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1368 "2023-12-14T20:58:56Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Evidence can be weak or strong, circumstantial or empirical. The things stated as evidence must be true. Nothing you’ve provided reaches that level. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1369 "2023-12-14T21:02:11Z")
Keep telling yourself that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1370 "2023-12-14T21:06:16Z")
What is the best evidence you have given us? Other than “Hunter Biden gots a laptop!!”, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1371 "2023-12-14T21:08:19Z")
Submitted as evidence of nefarious activity is multiple people testifying under oath that the no nefarious activity occurred. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1372 "2023-12-14T21:09:31Z")
Evidence of a cover-up!!! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1373 "2023-12-14T21:09:54Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Keep telling yourself that. We will, because that’s what the facts demonstrate. That you haven’t even bothered trying to respond to us when we demonstrate these facts says something about you. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1374 "2023-12-14T21:19:38Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Way more evidence for that, than for … what is the exact crime that Biden is being accused of again? I still don’t think they’ve ever specified that. Dude, that’s why they’ve got to impeach Biden, in order to gather evidence of a crime. Didn’t you get your MAGA memo on this? That’s how the justice system works, first you have a trial, then you figure out what the charges are, then gather evidence. _Then_ you make an accusation of a specific crime. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1375 "2023-12-14T21:24:41Z")
But this doesn’t count as a political witch hunt because that’s only when a Republican gets in trouble for their actions. Do I have that right? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1376 "2023-12-14T21:26:15Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That you haven’t even bothered trying to respond to us when we demonstrate these facts says something about you. Well, he has responded by “wahhhh, you’re all picking on me.” That’s a response. HA! Game set and match. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1377 "2023-12-14T21:26:32Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > _Then_ you make an accusation of a specific crime. Even if you can’t find one. > [@Airbeck](#): > > But this doesn’t count as a political witch hunt because that’s only when a Republican gets in trouble for their actions. You’re catching on quick. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1378 "2023-12-14T21:27:36Z")
Maybe we need another Benghazi hearing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1379 "2023-12-14T21:27:49Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > That’s how the justice system works, first you have a trial, then you figure out what the charges are, then gather evidence. _Then_ you make an accusation of a specific crime. No no no. _First_, you pronounce sentence. _Then_ the trial, then charges, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1380 "2023-12-14T21:30:14Z")
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