# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1641 "2024-01-14T04:33:20Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I am unfailingly polite **December**? Is that you? Here’s a clue for you: lying to people isn’t polite. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1642 "2024-01-14T13:54:25Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Are you talking about Crowmanyclouds? I’m confused. The only thing you seem confused about is what “integrity” means. I get the feeling we may as well be scolding you for lacking arglebeep, for all you understand. You’re getting so defensive and snippy and petulant because we keep giving you shit about something whose basic concept eludes you. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1643 "2024-01-14T16:47:19Z")
It’s a troll. But maybe, maybe if it feels it isn’t getting enough respect for it’s non-troll posts and it’s martyrdom, it’ll take another hiatus. Hopefully a LONGER, nay, perpetual one! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1644 "2024-01-15T03:20:07Z")
[![](https://images.dailykos.com/images/1167707/story_image/tumblr_7236fc5ee8cb43d9aa4a5874c88e0340_be4ef422_250.jpg?1678068274) ](https://images.dailykos.com/images/1167707/story_image/tumblr_7236fc5ee8cb43d9aa4a5874c88e0340_be4ef422_250.jpg?1678068274) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1645 "2024-01-15T22:13:34Z")
Well, there’s a first for everything. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1646 "2024-01-16T05:17:49Z")
And on that “I know you are, but what am I?” 2nd grade playground response, I bid Sam the Sham a not-so-fond “fuck you”, and Buh Bye ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1647 "2024-01-16T09:40:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Well, there’s a first for everything. Indeed. Perhaps one day you will admit that the reason you’re so heavily disliked here is your fundamental dishonesty on all things political rather than a general bias against conservatives. But that day is unlikely to be today. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1648 "2024-01-16T17:20:33Z")
You go on believing that if it helps you sleep at night. Of course it’s political bias. But none of you will ever admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1649 "2024-01-16T18:18:54Z")
You are so completely blind to your own lack of integrity that it forces you to look for other reasons that people are annoyed with you. It’s truly astonishing. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1650 "2024-01-16T18:24:10Z")
I find it more pathetic than astonishing. It’s definitely typical of people with a persecution complex. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1651 "2024-01-16T18:46:44Z")
As I said in the Limbaugh thread when he died: > [@](#): > > This constant sense of being under siege is my biggest _emotional_ memory of Rush – he turned the entire conservative movement into what my grandfather would call the “Poor Me” Club, a victimization cult, personally slighted by everything. When I think of Rush, this whining is my biggest impression. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1652 "2024-01-16T19:55:29Z")
Yeah, why would any conservative on this board think they are under siege? It’s a real mystery. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1653 "2024-01-16T20:02:16Z")
You can always go somewhere else. Win Win ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1654 "2024-01-16T20:03:22Z")
So can you. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1655 "2024-01-16T20:13:36Z")
The real mystery is why you would think you could get away with so many lies at a place like this. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1656 "2024-01-16T20:16:26Z")
‘The food is terrible . . . and the portions are so small!’ right Sam? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1657 "2024-01-16T20:31:45Z")
I’d like to take this opportunity to congratulate Sammy for living up to his ideals on taking personal responsibility for his actions and integrity. Ayn Rand would be proud of you. Who knows? Maybe someday before the heat death of the universe I’ll be able to say that unironically. I’m not holding my breath though. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1658 "2024-01-16T20:35:23Z")
_Cecil Shrugged_ ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1659 "2024-01-16T21:52:08Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Yeah, why would any conservative on this board think they are under siege? It’s a real mystery. I’m mad at you because you lie a lot! **I don’t understand why you’re mad at me! Cats are robots.** You’re lying right now! **You must not like me because I’m Canadian. 95% of all French fries are sold in Utah.** No they’re not! You didn’t even cite that! Would you quit lying? **You really hate Canadians, do you? Microsoft Word was originally marketed as Tonka Trucks in Space.** It’s not that you’re Canadian, it’s that you constantly say things that aren’t true! **Canadians are under siege around here, how do you not get that? You know who else is under siege? Taylor Swift, because the Patagonian Navy has her surrounded in a cottage in the Alps.** ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1660 "2024-01-16T22:02:36Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > You go on believing that if it helps you sleep at night. > > Of course it’s political bias. But none of you will ever admit it. Rachel Carson was supported by the JFK administration after the government took a look at her claims and other researchers did agree with her conclusions, then the Nixon administration supported her by setting the EPA and agreed to stop the use of DDT in the USA. If you still think that what she told us in Silent Spring was partizan and that she was a mass murderer, you are just the result of what corporate right wingers told you to believe. > **[The US Federal Government Responds](https://www.environmentandsociety.org/exhibitions/rachel-carsons-silent-spring/us-federal-government-responds)** > > This is Chapter 2 of the exhibition "Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring: A book that changed the world" by historian Mark Stoll. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=84)