# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1681 "2024-01-16T23:57:00Z")
I’d ask what this significant stuff was, but we all know what the response to that would be. In fact, we know every line of this conversation - we’ve already had it half a dozen times. Let it go, people. It’s actually OK to just let him stew in his juices, no need to beat your head against the wall. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1682 "2024-01-17T00:05:11Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > There was nothing significant in the laptop. There never was. > > That opinion explains a lot. This is a bigger lie than anything you have accused me of. But I wouldn’t call you a ‘liar’, because I think you’ve just got your head so far inside the liberal bubble that you have no idea. Cite free lies from a boring liar. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1683 "2024-01-17T02:05:46Z")
It’s amazing how I try to make fun of you with a fake conversation, and you follow the exact format of that fake conversation, only with even more ridiculous and easily-debunked lies than my fake ones. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1684 "2024-01-17T02:15:24Z")
So…You are admitting to trolling me? Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1685 "2024-01-17T02:18:22Z")
You have been trolling ALL of the us for years and getting away with it. Plus, I’m not convinced “making fun of a troll” = “trolling”. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1686 "2024-01-17T02:27:05Z")
How the fuck is this post (assuming it’s the one in question) trolling at all, let alone trolling you??? > [@A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1659): > > I’m mad at you because you lie a lot! I don’t understand why you’re mad at me! Cats are robots. You’re lying right now! You must not like me because I’m Canadian. 95% of all French fries are sold in Utah. No they’re not! You didn’t even cite that! Would you quit lying? You really hate Canadians, do you? Microsoft Word was originally marketed as Tonka Trucks in Space. It’s not that you’re Canadian, it’s that you constantly say things that aren’t true! Canadians are under siege around here… ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1687 "2024-01-17T02:29:49Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’d ask what this significant stuff was, but we all know what the response to that would be. A cite? Remember that gun charge? Part of the evidence against Hunter came from his laptop: > [@](#): > > In a third filing Tuesday, prosecutors said they have provided over 1.2 million pages of documents that they intend to use in the case, as well as “additional electronic evidence from the defendant’s Apple iCloud account and a copy of data from the defendant’s laptop.” > **[Federal prosecutors oppose Hunter Biden's 'meritless' request to toss gun...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/federal-prosecutors-oppose-hunter-bidens-request-toss-gun-charges-rcna134211)** > > Prosecutors said that “investigators observed a white powdery substance” on a brown leather pouch that held Hunter Biden’s firearm and that it was later identified as cocaine. The laptop had pictures of Hunter smoking crack and waving his handgun around. I’d say that’s significant. The House oversight committee has cited validated evidence from the laptop many times. But I know: they are also lying liars who lie, so they don’t count right? The notion that there’s just nothing significant on the laptop is delusional. The thing is full of evidence against Hunter Biden and maybe others. But now I’m guessing you’ll just declare that this is all completely insignificant so you can continue to call me a liar. We can differ on the significance of the info. But differing on it does not mke one side a liar. We just disagree. Nor does stating your disagreement constitute a ‘debunking’, even if a bunch of people pile on. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1688 "2024-01-17T02:48:17Z")
Pictures of Hunter smoking crack? And here I thought that the CSI ‘enhance’ thingy was science fiction! Chemical analysis of photographs of substances? Ain’t science wonderful! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1689 "2024-01-17T02:58:00Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > And it’s my understanding that said penis is significant. We’re going to need pictures to prove this. Preferably blown up and put on large laminated boards on a stand. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1690 "2024-01-17T03:00:15Z")
Or even some 8x10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explainin’ what each one was, to be used as evidence against him. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1691 "2024-01-17T03:00:29Z")
‘Pics might prove it to MTG but I’m gonna need to get hands on to see if it’s true.’ ~ Lauren Boebert ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1692 "2024-01-17T03:07:48Z")
Can’t tell if real or satire… ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1693 "2024-01-17T03:09:52Z")
‘BimBoebert is a WHORE, of course it’s not satire!’ ~ MTG ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1694 "2024-01-17T03:13:26Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The laptop had pictures of Hunter smoking crack and waving his handgun around. Pictures could prove it was crack and a real handgun? Tell me which of these is the real handgun. After you pick the correct one, tell me how the picture ID’d it as crack. [![](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-880ac82ba11a1a820ccdc04d98ee4172-lq) ](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-880ac82ba11a1a820ccdc04d98ee4172-lq) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1695 "2024-01-17T03:13:40Z")
Do you ever bother to read the cites you link in your feeble attempts to back up your ignorant claims? I mean, I will acknowledge this quote is from the article: > In a third filing Tuesday, prosecutors said they have provided over 1.2 million pages of documents that they intend to use in the case, as well as “additional electronic evidence from the defendant’s Apple iCloud account and a copy of data from the defendant’s laptop.” However there is nothing in the article to support this claim you made: > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The laptop had pictures of Hunter smoking crack and waving his handgun around. I’d say that’s significant. Where did you get this tidbit because it isn’t mentioned in your linked article. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The House oversight committee has cited validated evidence from the laptop many times. But I know: they are also lying liars who lie, so they don’t count right? Correct, anything the House Oversight Committee claims is 100% bullshit until there is evidence backing it up. You haven’t provided any evidence of your claim here. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The notion that there’s just nothing significant on the laptop is delusional Your are the delusional one just buying the rantings of Jordan, Trump or FOX News or wherever you got this idea. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The thing is full of evidence against Hunter Biden and maybe others. Cite? Or at least a list of the evidence? > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > But now I’m guessing you’ll just declare that this is all completely insignificant so you can continue to call me a liar. No, we’ll keep calling you a liar because you keep repeating lies. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1696 "2024-01-17T03:41:50Z")
Wow. I’m not going to litigate the laptop evidence. The courts will do that. The fact that it has been used in multiple investigations and in a trial makes it significant. I already kmow that no matter what I say you will engage in some more sophistry, repeat that I am a liar, etc. You are tediously predictable. You should get a new schtick. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1697 "2024-01-17T03:47:58Z")
I don’t kmow exactly what the evidence is. I don’t need to. I was responding to the claim that there was ‘nothing of significance’ on the laptop. That is a ridiculous thing to say in light of its evidence being part of multiple investigations and a court case. That seems indisputable, so instead now we are arguing about Glocks. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1698 "2024-01-17T03:51:01Z")
And you are pathetically predictable. The claims you made aren’t supported by the link you offered. What are these multiple investigations you reference? What courts will support your claims? Of course, since you are a pathetic troll I don’t really expect you to offer any evidence supporting your tiresome schtick. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1699 "2024-01-17T03:55:11Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I don’t kmow exactly what the evidence is. I don’t need to. Of course not! Why would anyone need to know what something to in order to make claims about what that thing is? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1700 "2024-01-17T03:59:16Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > The claims you made aren’t supported by the link you offered. Of course it was. The laptop is being used as evidence in a federal case against the son of the President. That makes it significant. And evidence from it it has been repeatedlly entered into evidence in multiple congressional investigations. That also makes it significant. These cases are ongoing, and in the news almost every day. The congressional investigations may have been kicked off in part because of evidence on the laptop. Perhaps you don’t understand the definition of significant? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=86)