# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 86
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1701 "2024-01-17T04:05:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I don’t kmow exactly what the evidence is. I don’t need to. This is the saddest thing I have _ever_ read on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1702 "2024-01-17T04:06:06Z")
Where does your link say there are pictures of Hunter smoking crack and waving his handgun around? Where does your link say the Oversight Committee has validated any evidence? Again, what evidence is on the laptop against Hunter and maybe others? The congressional investigations have failed to find any evidence that wasn’t already being used by DOJ to prosecute Hunter. They didn’t need the laptop because nothing of significance has been found on it. Unless of course you are talking about the congressional investigations into Joe Biden which are 100000% bogus. Next time come back with actual evidence, not Comer committee talking points. And look up the definition of pathetic troll. Pretty sure you’ll find a picture of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1703 "2024-01-17T04:07:43Z")
Read for context. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1704 "2024-01-17T04:15:01Z")
The mission of this Board is to fight ignorance. We have a member who acts in direct opposition to that mission. However, it is not the mods job to determine what is ignorance, nor is it their job to fight it. It is ours. Therefore, if we… the ignorance fighters… determine that one among us is acting in direct opposition to the Boards mission and, as a group, overwhelmingly determine this person to be unrepentant in their violation of this mission and can provide _years_ of cites proving this, the mods… _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1704))_ (Poll 1 results are private) * * * Person 1 has a son. The son violates the rules of the community, in a manner which implicates… however indirectly… the father. Should Person 1 be held responsible for the sins of the son? _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1704))_ (Poll 2 responses are public.) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1705 "2024-01-17T04:31:38Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > This is the saddest thing I have _ever_ read on the Dope. On the contrary, it’s rare to see somebody exercise such transparent, illuminating self awareness. It took 1700 posts but the guy finally got to the core of his issues. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1706 "2024-01-17T05:11:33Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Where does your link say there are pictures of Hunter smoking crack and waving his handgun around? > Where does your link say the Oversight Committee has validated any evidence? > Again, what evidence is on the laptop against Hunter and maybe others? Jeez, cut Sammy a break, didn’t you read? He doesn’t need to know what the evidence was, he just has to _believe_ it’s there and consists of pictures of Hunter smoking crack and waving his handgun around and presto, that’s what it is, and Biden Crime Family evidence to boot! Again, he’s doing Ayn Rand proud by demonstrating that he understands her philosophy that belief in things is what matters, not evidence or facts. It’s been quite a few years since I read it, but I’m going to say that was the core message of John Galt’s 60-page long speech. Here, I’ll even [link to it](https://amberandchaos.net/?page_id=73) to prove I’m right. Just don’t expect me to read my cite or anything, I’m doing things using the Sammy school of debate. If for some bizarre reason it turns out I’m wrong, it’s because I’ve _misstated_ what my cite actually says, not because I know it isn’t what it says and am lying. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1707 "2024-01-17T05:25:31Z")
From the Twitter thread: > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/8627): > > > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/8619): > > > > In Twitter news, it reached an all-time record number of users a couple of days ago. > > That’s a surprising stat that doesn’t appear to have made it into traditional media sources. How are “users” defined? Can you point me toward this news? Sam hasn’t responded to this yet. Any guesses what he’ll do? 1. ignore it and pretend he never made this claim 2. provide a link to something that doesn’t support his statement 3. “I don’t need to link to information everyone already knows, you’re only asking because I’m conservative” 4. cite some made up number that Musk tweeted 5. shift the goalposts, e.g., “the total number of users who ever registered on Twitter is always increasing” 6. apologize for making shit up (Option 6 is just a joke.) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1708 "2024-01-17T05:31:11Z")
(Option 6 is just a joke, but it would help to prove that he’s from Canada.) ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1709 "2024-01-17T07:33:47Z")
I wonder why, if there are pictures of Hunter Biden smoking crack and waving a gun around, they haven’t been published like the dick pics. It would be much more significant, I guess most of us assumed that Hunter possess a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1710 "2024-01-17T09:39:49Z")
I’d vote for topic bans, as long as narrowly defined. “Sam is banned from discussing U.S. presidential politics” is too broad; SCOTUS will end up overturning on appeal. Seriously, though, a topic ban like “Hunter’s laptop” would head off a lot of shit. Every time I see Sam post, yet again, “And yet no one has apologized to me for being right about Hunter’s laptop,” I grind my teeth and roll my eyes in anticipation of 100 posts of the same old debunked bullshit and angry rebuttals. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1711 "2024-01-17T10:27:31Z")
I saw that there were 43 unread messages in this thread and I immediately thought “Sam has discovered the smoking gun on Hunter’s laptop” This time for sure! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1712 "2024-01-17T10:35:47Z")
“It is raining outside right now!” (After looking out the window) “Uh…not, it isn’t. What are you talking about?” “I was right all along! Rain _does_ exist!” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1713 "2024-01-17T12:18:50Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > So…You are admitting to trolling me? Nice. Amazing, folks. Apparently saying I’m making fun of him **in the pit** is admitting to trolling. Way to bolster my opinion of your integrity there. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1714 "2024-01-17T16:02:39Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > If for some bizarre reason it turns out I’m wrong, it’s because I’ve _misstated_ what my cite actually says, not because I know it isn’t what it says and am lying. No no. If it turns out your cite does not say what you claim, this means that everyone is against you, and is picking on you because of your political beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1715 "2024-01-17T16:43:08Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > If anything, I gave the ‘Russian disinformtion’ letter by those spooks more credibility than I should have. That letter is 100% true. You didn’t give it enough credibility. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1716 "2024-01-17T17:14:14Z")
> [@Mikkel](#): > > I wonder why, if there are pictures of Hunter Biden smoking crack and waving a gun around, they haven’t been published like the dick pics. I just spent five minutes searching, and couldn’t find anything other than his penis, and some nice shots of him with a beautiful woman on a beach. He was smoking what appeared to be a cigarette in one photo. Of course, the main point is nothing significant _about the President_ has been found on Hunter’s laptop. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1717 "2024-01-17T17:19:26Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Of course, the main point is nothing significant _about the President_ has been found on Hunter’s laptop. At this point it reminds me of this exchange: **Chalmers** : Why is there smoke coming out of your oven, Seymour? **Skinner** : Uh… ooh! That isn’t smoke, it’s steam! Steam from the steamed clams we’re having. Mmmm, steamed clams! **Skinner** : Superintendent, I hope you’re ready for mouthwatering hamburgers. **Chalmers** : I thought we were having steamed clams. **Skinner** : Oh no, I said ‘steamed hams’. That’s what I call hamburgers. **Chalmers** : You call hamburgers ‘steamed hams’? **Skinner** : Yes! It’s a regional dialect. **Chalmers** : Uh-huh. Eh, what region? **Skinner** : Uh…upstate New York. **Chalmers** : Really? Well I’m from Utica and I’ve never heard anyone use the phrase ‘steamed hams’. **Skinner** : Oh, not in Utica, no. It’s an Albany expression. **Chalmers** : I see. [_Chalmers takes a bite out of a burger and chews it a little, while Skinner sips his drink._] **Chalmers** : You know, these hamburgers are quite similar to the ones they have at Krusty Burger. **Skinner** : Hohoho, no! Patented Skinner Burgers. Old family recipe! **Chalmers** : For steamed hams? **Skinner** : Yes. **Chalmers** : Yes, and you call them steamed hams, despite the fact they are obviously grilled. **Skinner** : Y- Uh… you know, the… One thing I should… excuse me for one second. **Chalmers** : Of course. [_Skinner enters and leaves the kitchen swiftly upon seeing it is now on fire_] **Skinner** : [_yawns_] Well, that was wonderful. A good time was had by all. I’m pooped. **Chalmers** : Yes, I should be–_good lord, what is happening in there?!_ **Skinner** : Aurora Borealis? **Chalmers** : Ah- _Aurora Borealis?!_ At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, _localized entirely within your kitchen?!_ **Skinner** : Yes. **Chalmers** : …May I see it? **Skinner** : …No. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1718 "2024-01-17T17:20:34Z")
Let’s be fair - nobody so perfidious that his son owns a laptop could possibly be an honest, law-abiding citizen. I mean there could be naughty pictures on that thing! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1719 "2024-01-17T17:24:47Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > My take back then has stood the test of time. The insults and accusations of lying hurled against me then, not so much. A reminder that the lies were about what you keep accusing **others** of saying back then. But I see you’ve managed to find some new lies to tell about the laptop. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1720 "2024-01-17T17:30:42Z")
Picture of Hunter sleeping with a crack pipe in his mouth: > **[Shocking pictures of Biden's son and damning emails emerge](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8842709/Joe-Bidens-son-crack-pipe-new-low-dirtiest-election-writes-TOM-LEONARD.html)** > > Photos of Joe Biden's son Hunter lying in bed with what appears to be a crack pipe in his mouth have been released along with emails from his work in Ukraine just weeks before the US election. Photo of Hunter Biden smoking crack while driving at high speed: > **[Hunter Biden photos leak of when he smoked crack while driving through a...](https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/2023/07/03/64a2329d46163fa31b8b4594.html)** > > Hunter Biden supposedly filmed himself with a pipe regularly used for smoking crack while he drove a car at 172 mph on his way to Las Vegas, Nevada. All of this is according to tho Photo of Hunter Biden holding his gun while naked, finger on the trigger. > **[Nude Hunter Biden is the latest mess for the president](https://nypost.com/web-stories/nude-hunter-biden-is-the-latest-mess-for-the-president/)** > > Radar Online has leaked creditable images from a Hunter Biden sex tape that shows the President’s son naked holding an illegally purchased gun. This is the gun that Halle Biden threw into a dumpster because Hunter was acting so irrationally with it. I’m not sure why you found these so hard to find. They were on the front page of Google when I typed 'Hunter Biden crack photo" and “Hunter Biden Gun photo” All of this came from the laptop. You know, the one of absolutely no significance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=85) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=87)