# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1821 "2024-01-26T22:27:24Z")

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I finally got around to reading Sam’s posts in the Texas National Guard thread in P&E. Holy shit he is coming **unhinged**. This is like split\_pj level of crazy nonsense.

I have had issues with Sam in the past but this hardly seems like him. I mean, this is fucking crazy.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1822 "2024-01-26T22:46:02Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I mean, this is fucking crazy.

/butter-not-melting-in-mouth

Perhaps he should be given a suspension, say a few weeks to start, for his own good? 😉

/butter-not-melting-in-mouth

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1823 "2024-01-26T22:53:16Z")

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Topic ban seems appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1824 "2024-01-26T22:55:59Z")

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I don’t think it is more unhinged than usual. I do think it is more _dangerous_. Concern trolling about what’s best for Dems with advice that could literally tear the country apart if followed.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1825 "2024-01-26T23:28:16Z")

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I think he’s drunk. Notice all the typos.

He’s a damn troll and all he does is spread lies. The board would be better without him.

He’s a damn repugnant poster.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1826 "2024-01-26T23:32:29Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Seeing as how the Great Replacement theory claims it’s a conspiracy by the Jews to poison the blood of the white race, normally I’d question potential antisemitic motives on Sam’s part. But as we all know, Sam is the most consistent pro-Israeli poster on this board. That has Israelis who post here.

It should never be forgotten that at the root of conservative support for Israel is conservative Christianity’s ‘’‘support’‘’ for Israel.  
And at the root of conservative Christianity’s ‘’‘support’‘’ for Israel is the position that Israel must exist so all the world’s Jews can return there and be judged by the Second Coming of Christ for their unconscionable sin of not accepting the changes the sequel to The Old Testament require.  
In short, conservative support for Israel is, almost, entirely base on the Blood Libel.  
(That being ‘The Jews killed Christ’.)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1827 "2024-01-27T01:47:23Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I think he’s drunk. Notice all the typos.

That would explain it. It felt off.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1828 "2024-01-27T02:15:51Z")

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Sam constantly does typos. He’s explained it’s from typing on an iPad. I don’t think there was alcohol involved.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1829 "2024-01-27T02:52:44Z")

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I’d been assuming that the typos where just Canadian spellings of words I was not aware of.

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**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1830 "2024-01-27T02:56:36Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I think he’s drunk. Notice all the typos.

Tucker Carlson’s been in town to preach his gospel with his disciple Premier Danielle Smith at his side; maybe Sam’s still high from sniffing Tuckums’ farts.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1831 "2024-01-27T02:58:38Z")

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That “Canadian” is 100% full of shit with nothing to back him. Cite free bullshit.

> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I think he’s drunk. Notice all the typos.
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> He’s a damn troll and all he does is spread lies. The board would be better without him.
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> He’s a damn repugnant poster.

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1832 "2024-01-27T06:35:11Z")

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How about a thread ban for the Texas border issue? Because he _did_ get that.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1833 "2024-01-27T16:07:56Z")

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Do read his ‘contributions’ in that thread, if you need a laugh (well, that’s what I did, but only after staring horrified at a constant litany of partisan lies, even after they were debunked).

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1834 "2024-01-27T19:08:00Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> How about a thread ban for the Texas border issue? Because he _did_ get that.

A step in the right direction. I can’t evaluate if he’s becoming _more_ unhinged, as he’s been on ignore for quite some time now (notwithstanding my joke about taking him off if he stopped bitching about being persecuted) - but the rare times I doubt for a moment that he’s a troll, I think he’s deeply troubled and so far gone into the RWNJ-sphere that it would be better for both him and us for a ban to come down.

But since I’m convinced he’s a troll 90+% of the time it’s infrequent.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1835 "2024-01-27T21:46:10Z")

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> [@Javier Milei's Speech at Davos and other Libertarian Things](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/javier-mileis-speech-at-davos-and-other-libertarian-things/996413/14):
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> > [@Javier Milei's Speech at Davos and other Libertarian Things](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/javier-mileis-speech-at-davos-and-other-libertarian-things/996413/14):
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> > > [@Javier Milei's Speech at Davos and other Libertarian Things](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/javier-mileis-speech-at-davos-and-other-libertarian-things/996413/4):
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> > > But I suspect this isn’t the place to debate this. I shouldn’t have started this thread. It will not end well.
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> > What does this mean? How did you imagine this thread ending well?
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> This is just the o.p. poisoning the well so when the facts pile up against his premise and people illustrate what a would-be despot Milei actually is, he can claim that it is just because the confederacy of Internet dunces are against him and deliberately dragging the thread down just as he predicted it would.
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> Stranger

Funny how the great libertarian Milei is looking to raise taxes, hand over power to private industries, give himself the ability to legislate without having to go through the pesky legislature for the next two years and criminalize gatherings of more than two people in a public place.

Sounds like straight up fascism to me.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1836 "2024-01-28T02:58:10Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Sounds like straight up fascism to me.

I think that’s the feature for some, not the bug. This is what they want.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1837 "2024-01-29T14:46:05Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> No cite for this of course, nor is any reason given as to why Biden wants migrants which have become a huge political liability for him to come through

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’m pretty sure it’s some rabid ultra-libertarian podcast or some nonsense.

This isn’t a fringe view anymore in the right-wing world and hasn’t been for a while. The syllogism is:

1. Biden opens the borders and lets millions of illegal immigrants in.
2. Those illegal immigrants all vote (illegally) for Biden and other Democrats.
3. ~~PROFIT~~ Stolen election!

Never mind that none of those are happening or likely to happen. It’s what they tell themselves to gin up a moral panic about immigration and to explain to themselves why they lose elections.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1838 "2024-01-29T14:55:39Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> This isn’t a fringe view anymore in the right-wing world and hasn’t been for a while.

I was speculating solely about where _Sam_ specifically got it from, just based on it being Sam.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1839 "2024-01-29T16:06:12Z")

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He got it from Elon.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1840 "2024-01-29T17:05:42Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> He got it from Elon.

I personally never name my body parts, especially that one.

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