# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1861 "2024-01-30T03:43:54Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Where I was going to go with that was to say that there is a risk that, if there is a terrorist attack between now and the election and it can be traced back to people who walked across the border. public attitudes will turn very dark about the border and the party in power will suffer for it. Suffer for it? After 9/11, I remember a lot of “we must rally around the president in these desperate times” and “it would send the wrong message to change leaders right now”. In 2002, Republicans gained a majority in the Senate, and increased their majority in the House. In 2004, George W. Bush was re-elected; the only time Republicans have won the popular vote for president since 1988. So tell me, how did the party in power suffer for letting the hijackers in? Should something similar happen between now and the 2024 election, I wouldn’t be surprised if the same party, and even the same people, who rallied support for Republicans in 2002 and 2004 use it to attack Biden and Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1862 "2024-01-30T03:46:44Z")
I was just reading about the murder-for-hire plot between two Canadian Hells Angels and an Iranian national. Sounds like Canada is a dangerous place, and we should be focused on them, not Hezbollah sneaking in from the south. By my calculations, terrorists are twice as likely to be Canadian as Iranian. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1863 "2024-01-30T04:33:17Z")
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1864 "2024-01-30T04:53:33Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > For example, we have no idea how many of the young men coming from Venezuela are members of Hezbollah. > > Do you know that there are Hezbollah training camps in Venezuela? America is letting in thousands of unvetted military age men from that region, while literally fighting against similar Iranian proxies in the Middle East. Does this not worry you? Umm, the overwhelming population of the fucking planet’s men are ‘’‘’‘military age’‘’‘’ so what’s the point of that except to make those folks sound scary? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1865 "2024-01-30T05:10:51Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > To your larger claim that if a band of terrorists manage to sneak into the country and commit an act of terror, people will lose their collective shit, the answer is no shit Sherlock. This would be exactly the event that the right has been having wet dreams about for the last decade or so. Heck they would probably orchestrate it if they thought they could get away with it. See, for example, January 6, 2021. > [@TroutMan](#): > > By my calculations, terrorists are twice as likely to be Canadian as Iranian. Canadians: they walk among us. William Shatner. Michael J. Fox. Monty Hall. Mike Meyers. Alex Trebek. All of them Canadians. All of them here. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1866 "2024-01-30T05:46:12Z")
Pssst. Trebek is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1867 "2024-01-30T06:06:13Z")
Yeah, but being Canadian, Trebek is too polite to mention it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1868 "2024-01-30T07:47:04Z")
And their dark queen, Alanis Morissette. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1869 "2024-01-30T07:57:14Z")
I know one guy who doesn’t agree with Sam’s interpretation of Fain’s words about Trump. > **['Get rid of this dope': Trump lashes out at UAW chief Shawn Fain in late...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-shawn-fain/)** > > Donald Trump declared war on the United Auto Workers head Shawn Fain late Sunday night after the union leader took potshots at him earlier in the day on "Face the Nation."While on the CBS program, Fain told host Margaret Brennan, "I can't fathom any... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1870 "2024-01-30T10:35:20Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > For example, we have no idea how many of the young men coming from Venezuela are members of Hezbollah. > > Do you know that there are Hezbollah training camps in Venezuela? You think Hezbollah fighters are walking over a thousand miles to come to the US to commit terrorism? Seems highly unlikely, given that they could come in as tourists or students. Even Donald Trump praised Hezbollah as being smart. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1871 "2024-01-30T11:04:06Z")
He is also claiming with 100% Certainty that there will be a terrorist attack by migrants in the US. If there is an attack, I’d bet with 100% certainty that trump instigated it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1872 "2024-01-30T11:08:29Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > He is also claiming with 100% Certainty that there will be a terrorist attack by migrants in the US. Yes, adaher used to say the same thing. The whole “Hoping for a terrorist attack just to be proved right” thing is common among right-wing cowards. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1873 "2024-01-30T13:15:26Z")
> [@Capn\_Carl](#): > > Pssst. Trebek is dead. That’s what they want you to think. Really, it’s all a cover. Trebek had to go into deep hiding after he killed Elvis. That’s right, folks. Elvis _is_ dead, but only relatively recently as Canada sent a black ops team led by Trebek to kill him. So now, with his cover blown, Trebek himself is hiding out. I’m not sure where exactly (it wouldn’t be much of a hiding place if I did) but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with Canadian stone henge. I don’t dare say more or else they’ll send Scotty after me. You know James Doohan killed people during the war, right? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1874 "2024-01-30T18:21:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > For example, we have no idea how many of the young men coming from Venezuela are members of Hezbollah. > > > > Do you know that there are Hezbollah training camps in Venezuela? > > You think Hezbollah fighters are walking over a thousand miles to come to the US to commit terrorism? Seems highly unlikely, given that they could come in as tourists or students. Even Donald Trump praised Hezbollah as being smart. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > He is also claiming with 100% Certainty that there will be a terrorist attack by migrants in the US. > > If there is an attack, I’d bet with 100% certainty that trump instigated it. Spoiler: That’s the actual plot of both Ben Shapiro’s _True Allegiance_ and Steven Segal’s even more unhinged _The Way of the Shadow Wolves: The Deep State and the Hijacking of America_ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1875 "2024-01-30T21:10:48Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > That’s right, folks. Elvis _is_ dead, but only relatively recently as Canada sent a black ops team led by Trebek to kill him. So now, with his cover blown, Trebek himself is hiding out. I’m not sure where exactly (it wouldn’t be much of a hiding place if I did) but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with Canadian stone henge. I would love if they made that into a movie titled _Final Jeopardy_. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1876 "2024-01-30T21:12:30Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > He is also claiming with 100% Certainty that there will be a terrorist attack by migrants in the US. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1877 "2024-01-30T21:30:00Z")
> **[Trump ‘100% Certain’ Of Terror Attack Because Of Migrants, He Says](https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2024/01/23/trump-100-certain-of-terror-attack-because-of-migrants-he-says/?sh=49a70c1267a9)** > > The ex-president doubles-down on raising fear about increased migration—a constant theme since he first ran for president in 2015 and referred to “rapists” crossing the border. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1878 "2024-01-30T21:37:55Z")
Pretty sure he was referring to me, not Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1879 "2024-01-30T21:42:25Z")
I think @not_what_you_d_expect was replying to @Gyrate’s post’s last sentence, where the subject was Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1880 "2024-01-30T21:50:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Pretty sure he was referring to me, not Donald Trump. I’m pretty sure completely positive you replied to my post, not to theirs. So, cites have already been provided for you for links to Shapiro and Segal’s ‘novels’. Now you’ve gone and spoiled that the plots of both of them. Sad! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881.md?page=95)