# A serious question for Sam Stone on Factual Errors

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881 "2021-12-11T12:32:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-serious-question-for-sam-stone-on-factual-errors/955881/1308 "2023-12-14T03:44:37Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Everytime the shitstain known as @Sam_Stone starts destroying a thread with his lies, dishonesty and failure to provide accurate citations from non-biased sources, much as he is currently doing in the Biden Impeachment thread, I have to shake my head and wonder why people continue to engage with him.

Co-signed.

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I rarely post about a poster in the Pit. I’m going to make an exception here.

> [@Will Joe Biden pardon Hunter?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-joe-biden-pardon-hunter/994425/81):
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> These kinds of deliberately misleading statements such as I quoted from you above is why no one trusts your cites or your rhetoric.

I made the above statement of fact in the Hunter Biden thread, and I’m not apologizing for doing that, except to the extent that I posted it in the wrong forum. It’s not a pleasant fact, but it is a fact and it’s long overdue to be said.

Sam, you do not bring valid cites to support your arguments. You post Republican propaganda glurg and insist that others accept it as fact. You lie with ease about factual matters. I don’t think you know how to discern what’s factual and what isn’t. If this only affected you, I wouldn’t care. But in my opinion, it has a detrimental effect on the whole P&E forum.

You’re untrustworthy. Other posters show you again and again where your cites fail, and all you do is make some lame ass excuse and fade into the woodwork for awhile. Then you return and regurgitate the same garbage talking points that were already discredited.

Other posters should not have to be relegated to the Pit in order to have an honest discussion with you. And I don’t think the P&E forum is the least enhanced by your presence in it, fighting ignorance notwithstanding. It never rubs off on you. You’re so far down your rabbit hole of disinformation, it’s pathetic.

You want an example of your latest lie? Here you go:

> [@Will Joe Biden pardon Hunter?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-joe-biden-pardon-hunter/994425/80):
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> Hunter could have had a plea deal. He had a pretty good one all lined up, but his lawyers went too far and tried to slide a blanket immunity for all prior crimes into the fine print on one of the charges, and the judge threw it out.

That’s a lie. The judge threw out the plea agreement because the _prosecutors_ tried to slide the responsibility for Hunter Biden’s compliance with the plea agreement onto _her_. That was on the _prosecutors_, not Hunter Biden or his lawyers, and it was entirely inappropriate of the prosecutors to do it. Judges aren’t responsible to oversee compliance with plea agreements. So fuck right off with your, “What, me, lie?” garbage. You lied right there, and you do this all the time.

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