# A shout-out? from a VP candidate? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304 "2008-10-03T13:11:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/41 "2008-10-03T16:43:39Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Well, I’m pretty sure that I am, in fact, better than her at almost anything that doesn’t involve field dressing or birthin’ babies. But that certainly doesn’t answer my question. > > \*Are \*you okay with how she presents herself? I guess only knowing you and your infantile posting habits and her being a mayor, governor and vice-presidential candiate I would guess my answer is, surprise, yes, she is better than you. Ah your question is partisan and stupid. But I suppose the regular crowd will arise soon provide succor. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/42 "2008-10-03T16:45:27Z")
Since I don’t know you from Adam, and you clearly have nothing to say about Sarah Palin (as opposed to, um, me, who doesn’t know you from Adam), I guess we’re done here. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/43 "2008-10-03T16:49:26Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I thought he pulled that off rather well. I almost believed it for a second or two. Usually such things are instant redlines on the bullshit meter from a politician. He seemed to be trying to control himself, and did so very well except for the few moments when he was overcome. I have no problem believing that someone can still be deeply affected by the death of his wife and daughter 36 years ago. To echo the sentiment expressed upthread, quite frankly, I want the people at the highest level of government to be smarter than I am. I’m never going to have dinner with Biden or Obama, most likely, but I will be seriously affected by how good they are at doing their jobs. I don’t care how personable they are. I want them to be overwhelmingly competent, and Sarah Palin has certainly not shown that she’s competent. ---
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/44 "2008-10-03T16:51:04Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Since I don’t know you from Adam, and you clearly have nothing to say about Sarah Palin (as opposed to, um, me, who doesn’t know you from Adam), I guess we’re done here. since you never posed a question that could be separated from fact…basically an assholish opinoin. I took it upon myself to be an asshole. i doubt you’ll learn anything from my little lesson to you, however. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/45 "2008-10-03T16:51:57Z")
[QUOTE=CircleofWillis] The wolves were hungry at the prospect of the banquet last night. Unfortunately, nary a drop to satiate themselves. Apparantly still rummaging through the bones for the tiniest speck of meat. Sad, really. [/QUOTE] > [@CircleofWillis](#): > > and yet the bellies rumble with hunger… I detect a circular argument. Or does the [username](http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/a/a8/250px-Circle_of_Willis_en.svg.png) reflect that you have a large head, multiple symmetric vestigial arms and a tail? ---
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/46 "2008-10-03T16:53:03Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > He seemed to be trying to control himself, and did so very well except for the few moments when he was overcome. I have no problem believing that someone can still be deeply affected by the death of his wife and daughter 36 years ago. > > To echo the sentiment expressed upthread, quite frankly, I want the people at the highest level of government to be smarter than I am. I’m never going to have dinner with Biden or Obama, most likely, but I will be seriously affected by how good they are at doing their jobs. I don’t care how personable they are. I want them to be overwhelmingly competent, and Sarah Palin has certainly not shown that she’s competent. what basis are you saying that Obama, Biden, McCain, or Palin is competent then? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/47 "2008-10-03T16:59:29Z")
Personally, I listen to what they say and read what they write. And also consider what other people say and write about them. I’m not saying it’s the _best_ method, but it works well for me. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/48 "2008-10-03T17:00:14Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I detect a circular argument. Or does the [username](http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/a/a8/250px-Circle_of_Willis_en.svg.png) reflect that you have a large head, multiple symmetric vestigial arms and a tail? Maybe I’m not following you here, but it seems the masses were salivating at the thought of a Palin gaffe-filled show of horrors. It didn’t happen. This morning all we got is “She made a shout out” and “She is trying to be too folksy.” Lean pickin’s on “enough meat-covered bones over the course of the 90 minutes to fill us for awhile.” It just smacks of desperation to find SOMETHING to keep the waters chummed for the sharks\* here. \*Ok.. last of the animal metaphors, I promise. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/49 "2008-10-03T17:00:41Z")
> [@frankzafka](#): > > i doubt you’ll learn anything from my little lesson to you, however. That’s not true at all. I learned that you can’t think of some defense for her demeanor. And that disliking that demeanor is “partisan”. Which implies that someone here believes that all Republicans are yokels. For the record, that person isn’t me. ---
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/50 "2008-10-03T17:03:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Personally, I listen to what they say and read what they write. And also consider what other people say and write about them. I’m not saying it’s the _best_ method, but it works well for me. VT, Glad to hear THIS answer. Kind of puts my faith back into these boards. I know you make no pretention to your leaning but glad to see some people put some thoughts into their posts and not the nastiest, thoughtless shit that first floods their compromised noodle. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/51 "2008-10-03T17:06:35Z")
[ol] [/ol] > [@DianaG](#): > > That’s not true at all. I learned that you can’t think of some defense for her demeanor. And that disliking that demeanor is “partisan”. Which implies that someone here believes that all Republicans are yokels. For the record, that person isn’t me. I’m not not one speaking of motherly, matronly, moose-gutting shit. You spoke not of her demeanor, which I did not like either, but of other attributes she did not bring on stage. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/52 "2008-10-03T17:07:43Z")
> [@frankzafka](#): > > what basis are you saying that Obama, Biden, McCain, or Palin is competent then? Obama: Constitutional Law professor, skilled speaker, good plan for America. Biden: Decades of experience, solid performance in the debate. McCain: Decades of experience, whiny stupid old man performance in debate, “He just doesn’t get it.” Chose to stupidly grandstand and suspend his campaign so he could \*seem \*like a leader. Also, terrible jet pilot. Palin: Cutthroat bitch beauty queen creationist who fears witches and ignores every debate question with pre-memorized bullshit and behaves like a pathetic schoolmarm caricature so she can get the mindless sheep “family values” voters. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/53 "2008-10-03T17:09:40Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Obama: Constitutional Law professor, skilled speaker, good plan for America. > > Biden: Decades of experience, solid performance in the debate. > > McCain: Decades of experience, whiny stupid old man performance in debate, “He just doesn’t get it.” Chose to stupidly grandstand and suspend his campaign so he could \*seem \*like a leader. Also, terrible jet pilot. > > Palin: Cutthroat bitch beauty queen creationist who fears witches and ignores every debate question with pre-memorized bullshit and behaves like a pathetic schoolmarm caricature so she can get the mindless sheep “family values” voters. Well this is a fair, accurate, unbiased summary :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/54 "2008-10-03T17:09:54Z")
> [@frankzafka](#): > > I’m not not one speaking of motherly, matronly, moose-gutting shit. You spoke not of her demeanor, which I did not like either, but of other attributes she did not bring on stage. Do you understand what ‘demeanor’ means? Because her demeanor was “truck stop waitress with a heart of gold”, and that’s \*exactly \*what I spoke of. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/55 "2008-10-03T17:12:23Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#): > > Well this is a fair, accurate, unbiased summary :rolleyes: First off, objectively, the man is a terrible jet pilot. 😃 I’ll admit the other stuff is subjective though. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/56 "2008-10-03T17:12:58Z")
> [@ArizonaTeach](#): > > It was better than Biden’s fake choke-up. I think that was genuine. Biden’s a pretty devoted family man; takes the train home to Delaware every night. (Maybe Amtrak will get some proper funding in the Obama/Biden administration.) I don’t really care about candidates’ personal quirks, nor whether Palin’s folksiness was real or fake. I care about the policies they’ll be behind when they’re in office – for Christ’s sake, why do people base their votes on personality? ETA: I was hoping there’d be some questions about dinosaurs. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/57 "2008-10-03T17:13:30Z")
Maverick means we really are not repubs and do not know that Bush fella. They were trying to get a divorce from the republican party. Biden let then get away. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/58 "2008-10-03T17:14:28Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > First off, objectively, the man is a terrible jet pilot. 😃 > . This I can get on board with… errr… unless he is pilotng… ---
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/59 "2008-10-03T17:16:12Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > First off, objectively, the man is a terrible jet pilot. 😃 > I’ll admit the other stuff is subjective though. Thanks for subjective shit. But why waste your time? Christ people this is supposed to be..sorry it’s the pit…carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304/60 "2008-10-03T17:16:59Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I believe we were promised a six pack. No, you ARE the six-pack. You’re name is Joe, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-shout-out-from-a-vp-candidate/466304.md?page=4)