# A simple question for Trump supporters **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213 "2019-10-03T17:21:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/201 "2019-10-08T13:48:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > We made you do it? What a pussy answer. This. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![AMoore2891](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@AMoore2891](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AMoore2891)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/202 "2019-10-08T13:52:06Z")
At this point, Iā€™m convinced that if Trump walked onto a rally stage and sodomized a puppy while screaming ā€œDeath to America,ā€ his supporters would line up to use their mouths to clean his Toadstool when he was done. Trump is an abusive boyfriend, and his supporters are the love-sick, low-standard-having fools who only hear Trumpā€™s words when what he says fits their romantic narrative. They ignore anything he says which would upset that narrative, and they overlook his violence and his cheating, telling themselves that being with a bully is better than being alone, or (gasp!) being with a liberal. For every nine punches in the face, thereā€™s a rose; his supporters keep holding on for the next rose, telling themselves to forget about the punches in the face. The punches-to-roses ratio is abysmal, but but but he LOVES them - the roses prove it! Iā€™ve been more conservative than I am at present, and Iā€™ve been more liberal than I am at present (long, boring story). I donā€™t fully trust or support any candidate whoā€™s run in the campaign cycles since I reached voting age. However, I would NEVER vote for someone simply because I wanted to enrage, alienate, punish, or whatever, ā€œthe other side.ā€ Iā€™ve seen public figures who, while I disagree with them on religion or specific policies, I can still respect them as people, believing that they are, overall, decent, honest, compassionate, intelligent individuals. I can agree to disagree, until that disagreement leads to human rights violations, injustice, or what have you. I like to play devilā€™s advocate, I like to pick peopleā€™s brains to see why they believe the way they do - but, for me, Trump is a bridge too far in almost every single respect, every policy, every issue. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/203 "2019-10-08T14:42:10Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Because gun owners have militantly fought tooth and nail to prevent it. Much like they did after all the school shootings under Trumpā€™s watch. Do you feel safer knowing more nuts have enough firepower to wipe out entire crowds? Do you think if you were at [Las Vegas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting) with a gun, you could have prevented the slaughter? > [@Lumpy](#): > > My position? Donā€™t blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to. Thatā€™s what a lot of Trump voters say. Do you think his immaturity, unwillingness to listen to advisers and generals, mistreatment of anybody who disagrees with him, ignorance of US law and the Constitution, previous record of bankruptcies, making Americans pay for tariffs he thinks punishes the Chinese but actually doesnā€™t, and sending the US into 10 trillion in debt were worth not having Hilary as president? Donā€™t consider this question a smart-mouthed liberal being sassy. I really want to know if you consider his flaws. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/204 "2019-10-08T14:44:18Z")
**Lumpy** , coming all up in here with an excuse I wouldnā€™t accept from a twelve year-old! šŸ˜ƒ ā€œHe made me do it!ā€ I couldā€™ve sworn I remember reading some conservative doper who said they didnā€™t vote for Trump, but when they were standing at the voting booth, they were _thinking of those mean librul Dopers and their bad arguments_ and they almost pulled the trigger for Trump anyway. Same maturity level there. ā€œHey, my choice for running the country depends upon my immediate emotional response to a self-selected, but random, group of people with whom I have a distant relationship to via a message board!ā€ Just like the Founders intended! ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/205 "2019-10-08T14:56:53Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > I was having a conversation with a close relative the other day that I found enlightening, at least with regard to the current conservative psyche. > I asked him if he thought there were any hard lines the ā€œgood guysā€ should never cross. And he basically said, not really. He said that itā€™s all nice and well to have ethics in a world where everyone holds hands and sings Kumbaya, but in the real world, you do what you have to do in Americaā€™s best interests. Even if it means lowering yourself to ā€œtheirā€ level. > After several minutes of debate, and some hemming and hawing, he came up with a line: genocide. As in, if thereā€™s a village full of civilians, you canā€™t just bomb them because you donā€™t like their face. If thereā€™s a better reason to bomb them, though, like thereā€™s terrorists hiding out in the village, kaboom away. > > Convince yourself that having Agent Orange around is the best thing for the country, and with that mindset you really _could_ overlook him shooting a guy on Fifth Avenue. Update: screwing over the Kurds is also bad. Bad enough that over breakfast, unasked, he complained about Trump being an impulsive idiot who abandoned our allies, even though the Republicans were asking him not to. He didnā€™t even try to troll me about it. I didnā€™t press the issue, but having him admit that the Orange One could do _anything_ wrong is a baby step in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/206 "2019-10-08T15:02:46Z")
**Lump** has helpfully encapsulated the Trump MAGA-cult: vindictive, ignorant and morally bankrupt. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/207 "2019-10-08T15:40:45Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Hurt feelings, snowflake? ā€œFuck your feelings.ā€ Sound familiar? > > [Redirect Notice](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=imgres&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjV__7b44zlAhUBrZ4KHXAgCY8QjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Fgallery%2FDuaehfE&psig=AOvVaw0UFFmZ-A59fBBwb3lHl7Vk&ust=1570628089024055) The snowflakes are you pathetic losers suffering from terminal TDS who have started 57382 posts on the glorious orange one. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/208 "2019-10-08T15:46:46Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The snowflakes are you pathetic losers suffering from terminal TDS who have started 57382 posts on the glorious orange one. Your ā€œleaderā€ is the bigliest snowflake ever. Shove this bs where the sun donā€™t shine until you can honestly look at your side and how they whine about literally everything and everyone that isnā€™t sufficiently licking dear leaders boots. Itā€™s really pathetic how snowflaky you conservatives are these days. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/209 "2019-10-08T15:52:46Z")
ā€œNo uā€ is an even \*more \*juvenile excuse than ā€œLook what you made me do!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/210 "2019-10-08T16:24:04Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Your ā€œleaderā€ is the bigliest snowflake ever. Shove this bs where the sun donā€™t shine until you can honestly look at your side and how they whine about literally everything and everyone that isnā€™t sufficiently licking dear leaders boots. Itā€™s really pathetic how snowflaky you conservatives are these days. The glorious orange one is thin skinned. Like a kumquat. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/211 "2019-10-08T16:25:35Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The glorious orange one is thin skinned. Like a kumquat. So are his followers. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/212 "2019-10-08T16:34:35Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > **Lump** has helpfully encapsulated the Trump MAGA-cult: vindictive, ignorant and morally bankrupt. You forgot whiny. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/213 "2019-10-08T17:08:42Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > My position? Donā€™t blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to. Personal responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/214 "2019-10-08T17:23:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The snowflakes are you pathetic losers suffering from terminal TDS who have started 57382 posts on the glorious orange one. Jesus. Were you actually crying when you typed this? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/215 "2019-10-08T18:02:32Z")
Trumpists are, far and away, the most politically sensitive people Iā€™ve seen in modern political discourse. No other large cohort of voters in a Western country in my lifetime are so emotionally fragile. Campus activists are pretty damn bad, but Iā€™m not sure a group one is only a part of for a few years, and in a specific setting, is the same thing. That said, unsurprisingly, the question remains unanswered. Trumpists never admit where the line is. They never have and never will, so donā€™t ask. A more relevant question is why that is. The answer is simple; the line isnā€™t in front of us. Decent people assume that Trumpists perceive Trump as a capable President who is running a presidential administration and that, if Trump does things that are sufficiently bad according to the law and common decency, at some point they will decide he has done too many bad things and will not support him. That isnā€™t the point, though, and itā€™s not how they think. Trumpists DONā€™T want Trump to be a normal President doing presidential things; they want him to be a dictator doing terrible things to people they donā€™t like. If Trump cheats to win the 2020 election, that isnā€™t a bad thing to Trumpists. If he has immigrants shot without trial, that isnā€™t a bad thing to them. They donā€™t see Trump as being on a scale of ā€œincreasingly unacceptable thingsā€ that heā€™s at about 85 out of 100 on, or any number out of 100. To them his escalation of disregard for the Constitution and civilized behaviour is entirely terrific and they want more of it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/216 "2019-10-08T18:07:09Z")
Absolutely. This, plus a cult-like worship of an authority figure. Once the Authority figure has established himself as The One True Leader, with the Best Brain, and Great and Unmatched Wisdomā€¦ The cult members will do anything, believe anything. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/217 "2019-10-08T18:10:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The One True Leader, with the Best Brain Joel? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/218 "2019-10-08T18:31:21Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The snowflakes are you pathetic losers suffering from terminal TDS who have started 57382 posts on the glorious orange one. I find it infinitely amusing that the terms bandied around by MAGAminion like: **TDS** and **Presidential Harassment** are so much more applicable to those trying to use them as insults. I mean, what else would you call a cult like following of Trump if not _Trump Derangement Syndrome_. Similarly, every single tweet and utterance by the Orange AssClown is nothing but _Presidential Harassment_ of whomever he is targeting in that moment. Tell me you recognize this irony in this profound baffoonery of the MAGA-cult and its dear leader. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/219 "2019-10-08T18:33:16Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Absolutely. This, plus a cult-like worship of an authority figure. Once the Authority figure has established himself as The One True Leader, with the Best Brain, and Great and Unmatched Wisdomā€¦ The cult members will do anything, believe anything. Hail the great Stable Genius. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/220 "2019-10-08T19:00:28Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > More than once on this board the question has been asked of Trump supporters: What is the minimum Trump could do to cause you to oppose him? > Care to guess what the few responses were? The main problem with questions such as these is simple. There are very FEW Trump supporters on this board. Like maybe you could find 1 or 2? So that begs the question, why post here asking questions of Trump supporters? The conservatives on this board realize that the OP likes to call out folks that arenā€™t here, fight imaginary battles vs the big bad dragons of GOP Trump supporters HERE, where there are not many ā€¦if any He posts here to hear the sounds of his voice echoing back to him. As with some others, who will almost never fail to jump in and give him what he wants. What Trump was/ and may very well be again is the lesser of two evils and that is just as much YOUR fault as it is conservatives [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213.md?page=12)