# A simple question for Trump supporters **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213 "2019-10-03T17:21:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/241 "2019-10-08T22:17:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > WAHHHHHH!!! > I’ll believe you are on the fence when it comes to Trump when you start whining about how Trumpettes treat the left. Take your fence-sitting act elsewhere. > By the way, that “hive-mind” crap is stale. You might want to see if any fresher talking points are available. Bzzzzzz! So hiveling, the hive mind is not stale commentary. What’s stale is the million million threads on Trump. You redundant fools have no room to talk with regards to stale topics. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/242 "2019-10-08T22:24:05Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Bzzzzzz! > > So hiveling, the hive mind is not stale commentary. What’s stale is the million million threads on Trump. You redundant fools have no room to talk with regards to stale topics. If Trump would stop doing horrible things, I’d agree. It’s not like we’re talking about the same bullshit like Benghazi over and over again. It’s fresh bullshit every other day. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/243 "2019-10-08T22:27:40Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > It’s fresh bullshit every other day. Wrong species. The “stable genius” spews horseshit. ---
**Author:** ![lokij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@lokij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lokij)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/244 "2019-10-08T23:24:19Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Why on earth do you worry about what someone else does to someone else? And here it is, in a simple sentence providing a perfect encapsulation of the modern GOP. Why worry about somebody else? Why worry about those immigrants, they’re not Real Americans. Why worry about those transsexuals, they’re not Normal. Why worry if we got help from Russia, we won didn’t we? I got mine. Me first, and that means America first… and it better be the kind of America _I_ like. The environment? My backyard’s just fine buddy! On and on and on… ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/245 "2019-10-08T23:35:23Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Wrong species. > > The “stable genius” spews horseshit. Ah, it makes sense now! He’s a genius in a stable full of horses :smack: ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/246 "2019-10-08T23:45:27Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ah, it makes sense now! He’s a genius in a stable full of horses :smack: Ah…He is the “stable “genius”” in the way some folks are the “village idiot.” A place identifier and then a characterization, Genius being facetious in this context. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/247 "2019-10-09T00:08:14Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Update: screwing over the Kurds is also bad. Bad enough that over breakfast, unasked, he complained about Trump being an impulsive idiot who abandoned our allies, even though the Republicans were asking him not to. He didn’t even try to troll me about it. I didn’t press the issue, but having him admit that the Orange One could do _anything_ wrong is a baby step in the right direction. Thanks for the update. After the Turkey debacle I was actually going to post to ask whether your dad makes a distinction between committing genocide, and stepping aside to allow someone else to commit genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/248 "2019-10-09T00:53:19Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Possibly because I am not them, don’t frequent boards like that. I am here, you are the ones doing whatever it is. Why on earth do you worry about what someone else does to someone else? Then you must be a Trumpist, otherwise you wouldn’t be complaining about what someone else thinks of them. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/249 "2019-10-09T02:32:29Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Then you must be a Trumpist, otherwise you wouldn’t be complaining about what someone else thinks of them. That’s piss poor logic. Do you have to be livestock to worry about animal rights? Do you have to be coral to worry about ocean acidity? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/250 "2019-10-09T02:56:58Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That’s piss poor logic. Do you have to be livestock to worry about animal rights? Do you have to be coral to worry about ocean acidity? Doyou have to be poor to worry about income inequality? Do you have to be black to worry about extrajudicial killings? Hey this is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/251 "2019-10-09T03:55:41Z")
What do you know? There actually is [something that Trump can do that pisses off his supporters](https://news.yahoo.com/fans-furious-trump-mar-lago-090147891.html): > [@](#): > > Trump fans are fuming at the president’s signature Florida resort after Mar-a-Lago canceled an anti-Muslim group’s fundraiser starring conservative columnist Michelle Malkin. Now, technically it’s not Trump doing it, but given how he still hasn’t recused himself from his businesses, I think that’s just a technicality, more a word than a practice. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/252 "2019-10-09T05:47:31Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I could’ve sworn I remember reading some conservative doper who said they didn’t vote for Trump, but when they were standing at the voting booth, they were _thinking of those mean librul Dopers and their bad arguments_ and they almost pulled the trigger for Trump anyway. You may be thinking of **Bricker**. In the tale he tells, actually casting a ballot in 2016 was very emotional, almost traumatic. He actually voted Trump, voided the ballot and returned to the worker for a new ballot before voting Clinton. This seemed quite odd: I thought **Bricker** was a _thinker_. A thinker would have already made a decision and spent the minutes at the voting booth planning the day or something. The main reason **Bricker** couldn’t vote for right-wing Trump was worry about nuclear war with North Korea! But Trump is all chummy with Kim and hasn’t even pushed the nuclear button once. If he’d known this, I imagine **Bricker** would have voted for Trump. ```auto [quote="octopus, post:210, topic:841213"] The glorious orange one is thin skinned. Like a kumquat. [/QUOTE] More gibberish from the guy afraid to answer simple questions. Got your doorknob fixed yet? ``` > [@Kearsen1](#): > > Possibly because I am not them, don’t frequent boards like that. WTF are you talking about? You don’t need to go to right-wing boards to witness unacceptable rants. Just read Trump’s tweets. > [@Kearsen1](#): > > … What I would not have done is vote for someone morally bankrupt (like Hillary, or in this very case Trump) … I’ve listed a small number of Trump’s moral failings. What did Hillary do that was comparable? Is it the sex slaves in the basement of the pizza parlor that have you in a tizzy? ```auto Re: GUNS. I got denounced by the "hive mind" I am supposedly part of when I suggested that the extra thousand deaths monthly due to guns are irrelevant in the scheme of America's severe problems. I annoy the gun idiots when I ask about a hypothetical Second Amendment permitting "Walking naked upside-down down Main Street on Tuesday." (Would that injunction incite rage just as irrational as America's gun lust?) Yet now we hear one Doper admit that guns are so important to him — is he cowardly? Is he so ashamed of his penis that he needs surrogates? — that he'll happily elect Trump instead of a Democrat who speaks of gun control. God help us. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/253 "2019-10-09T12:22:33Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Then you must be a Trumpist, otherwise you wouldn’t be complaining about what someone else thinks of them. I don’t much worry what you say about Trumpists, but it gets conflated to ALL conservatives all the time. If interested in actually seeing the truth, just follow along in this thread. My position has been consistently misinterpreted, folded, turned over, and strawman-ed to death. All simply because I offered a differing view (hint: I have yet to defend Trump or anything remotely like that) But he’s angry, about something that someone once did on a different board and because he feels powerless there without all the support he garners here, he posts his vitriol here, where it WILL and HAS been supported. Nah, no hive here. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/254 "2019-10-09T12:27:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You are supposedly middle of the road…but this board that is so left wing if disgusts you is the board you choose to frequent? > You masochist! The board as a whole isn’t so far left wing that I disagree with most of the board, or even find disgusting, just some of the board. Namely the crazy left wing peeps, you included. I tend to find myself agreeing with **Velocity** often, and Bone, amongst a whole host of others. But its the you, and the BigT and septimuses of the board that drag it down into the fiery depths of lunacy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/255 "2019-10-09T13:10:27Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > The board as a whole isn’t so far left wing that I disagree with most of the board, or even find disgusting, just some of the board. Namely the crazy left wing peeps, you included. > > I tend to find myself agreeing with **Velocity** often, and Bone, **amongst a whole host of others**. But its the you, and the BigT and septimuses of the board that drag it down into the fiery depths of lunacy. Clip and save the bolded for the next time you hear conservative titty babies on this board sobbing about how outnumbered they are (as if there is an entitlement to one-to-one representation on a free to sign up message board.) Also, it appears that what drags this board into the “fiery depths of lunacy” (drama queen, much?) seems to be the existence on the board of people who disagree with you. Do you melt in the rain, cupcake? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/256 "2019-10-09T13:12:54Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > I don’t much worry what you say about Trumpists, but it gets conflated to ALL conservatives all the time. > If interested in actually seeing the truth, just follow along in this thread. My position has been consistently misinterpreted, folded, turned over, and strawman-ed to death. > All simply because I offered a differing view (hint: I have yet to defend Trump or anything remotely like that) > > But he’s angry, about something that someone once did on a different board and because he feels powerless there without all the support he garners here, he posts his vitriol here, where it WILL and HAS been supported. > Nah, no hive here. If you are referring to me I’m afraid you’ve badly misread my message. I wasn’t posting out of anger, or anything like that, just wondering why you only seem concerned about how Trump supporters or conservatives are treated here. I was simply pointing out that this board isn’t the entirety of existence, online or in the real world. It seems like a cop out to only be concerned about what you see here, in this small and insignificant corner of the internet, not what is broadcast on Fox news every day, or what is screeched on Twitter by our actual president constantly. Selective outrage is one of the biggest reasons we can’t get along in this country politically. When you only get upset by things that go along with and confirm your pre-existing views, and ignore or handwave away anything that goes against your prevailing mindset, you only become further entrenched and it just serves to exacerbate our divisions. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/257 "2019-10-09T13:13:10Z")
The Trumper’s park is melting In the rain All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cupcake in the rain I don’t think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to fake it And I’ll never have that recipe again Oh, no! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/258 "2019-10-09T13:21:38Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > You may be thinking of **Bricker**. In the tale he tells, actually casting a ballot in 2016 was very emotional, almost traumatic. He actually voted Trump, voided the ballot and returned to the worker for a new ballot before voting Clinton. This seemed quite odd: I thought **Bricker** was a _thinker_. A thinker would have already made a decision and spent the minutes at the voting booth planning the day or something. > > The main reason **Bricker** couldn’t vote for right-wing Trump was worry about nuclear war with North Korea! But Trump is all chummy with Kim and hasn’t even pushed the nuclear button once. If he’d known this, I imagine **Bricker** would have voted for Trump. > > … Holy hell, and I was sitting here thinking the story I _remembered_ was unlikely! “I voted for Trump, and, after validating my selections and leaving the voting booth, I went to the registration table, demanded that my ballot be cancelled, thereby allowing me to vote again” must have been something that happened so few times\* that it’s statistically unlikely… though not impossible!.. that one of the few people who did such a thing would be a regular poster here. (I was thinking it was Bricker, but didn’t want to impugn his fine name.) \*I mean, what - 5 people had this same sequence of events in 2016? 10 people? It can’t be that high, can it? OTOH, I would expect 2016 just fucking _murdered_ the record for “what have I done?” votes in American history (on both sides!), so maybe this story was repeated more often than I would expect. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/259 "2019-10-09T13:23:05Z")
@ **Kearsen1** :— > [@septimus](#): > > WTF are you talking about? You don’t need to go to right-wing boards to witness unacceptable rants. Just read Trump’s tweets. > > I’ve listed a small number of Trump’s moral failings. What did Hillary do that was comparable? Is it the sex slaves in the basement of the pizza parlor that have you in a tizzy? > [@Kearsen1](#): > > But its the you, and the BigT and septimuses of the board that drag it down into the fiery depths of lunacy. Lunacy? Fiery depths, no less? Is this because I haven’t condemned Hillary enslaving children in the pizza parlor? Hint: It’s anyone who considers the foibles of Hillary and Trump to be comparable that needs psychiatric help. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/260 "2019-10-09T13:55:17Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Bzzzzzz! > > So hiveling, the hive mind is not stale commentary. What’s stale is the million million threads on Trump. You redundant fools have no room to talk with regards to stale topics. I take it you don’t actually read those posts and assume they’re all saying the same thing. Let me ask you oc, what do you think all those anti-Trump posts are about? What are the typical topics as far as you know? Do you think those posters are merely complaining just cuz, or do you understand their grievances? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213.md?page=14)